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Thread for responding to lies spread by JazzyFresh

You're right. I have only read three posts in this thread so far. I have, howeer, already seen three different opinions, so probablty this is better than the damn phone, even if it's an old fashioned conference call, because people write stuff in here they wouldn't want to say in p ublic.
So there I was, setting up computers in a psych unit in Carson City. And it's the psych unit, so you know the population is going to be lively. And there was this guy consistently complaining about everything, and nothing all at once. "If you would get to work", and "I want my lunch", and "if it weren't for you, I'd be..."

I'd be quite sure that was you. Talking loudly, trying to degrade, but not actually saying a single word.
 
Trump just signed an amazing peace deal.

Thank you for acknowledging it was one peace deal. Not all that amazing since the UAE and Bahrain have already been exchanging in sizeable underground trade with Israel. Meanwhile, he threw the Iran treaty into the dust bin (and later tried to hold Iran to the terms of the treaty). That's still put him slightly negative.

By some of Obamas staffs own admission he willingly let Putin meddle in our elections so that he could get his Iran deal done

It is true McConnell refused to cooperate on Russian interference, and refused to cooperate on Iran.

Obama was aware of election meddling back I'm 2014 but didn't do anything. His intelligence agency was actually told to stand down by Obama.

He was foolish for thinking he could get McConnell's cooperation.

Obama in the heat of night sent Iran billions in unmarked bills.

Money that belonged to Iran, and that we seized illegally.

Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism.

So is the US.

Obama traded the election and America to sponsor Iran Nuclear. Remember he openly allowed them into our financial system, he allowed Russia to meddle in our elections to benefit Iran

McConnell was very happy to allow all of it, as long as he didn't have to work with Obama.

Provide links please

For what?

Robert Muellers report had this exactly word for word

“did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”

Yes, they colluded without rising to the level of conspiring or actual coordination.

Sure. Which one since this hasn't happened in 40+ years?

The Iran deal, and it happened in 2017.

Mueller and his team white washed over 2 dozen phones that could be used as evidence. He was also former head of the FBI.

A couple of dozen phones, out of hundreds, is not a "white wash", and there would be no point in destroying the phones when the server has records of everything on them.

The Associated Press found that Clinton won 487 counties nationwide, compared with 2,626 for President-elect Donald Trump.

Yes, less densely populated, rural areas voted for Trump over Clinton. Here in America, we count votes (by state or Congressional district), not counties. Why are you so unAmerican?

A Black lives matter cofounder openly admitred that BLM has a political affiliation and that is Marxism. That her and another main member are and I quote "trained Marxist".

The cofounder acknowledged that she has a Marxist affiliation, but there are other cofounders that are not Marxist, and there is no Marxism anywhere on BLM's pages.

In Obama's first three years in office, around 1.18 million immigrants were deported, while around 800,000 deportations hook place under Trump in his first three years of presidency.

Yep. Does Obama being terrible justify Trump being terrible? Are you saying you think Obama was a good President, and you wish Trump lived up to his standard? Or, do you think I worship Obama the way you worship Trump?

Stay on topic. This is the prove Jazzyfresh lied thread...

No, it is not. I don't know that you lied. I made that very clear. This is a thread about rebutting the many lies you spread, whether you realize they are lies or not.

Now, if you want go around talking about you lying in this thread, I don't mind.

... so fact check me and stay on topic.

I don't think many people see you as having actual authority to enforce thread topics, and certainly not moral authority.

If you guys don't respond with links and evidence to disprove my facts...

There is little point, as 1) many are not facts at all but mere claims (some of which are particularly stupid), 2) even when you get links, you don't bother changing your positions, so I have no reason to do so, and 3) you don't provide any links that back up your claims to begin with, at best providing a link that is tangential.

... I'm telling the truth by your own thread title.

You are free to believe as you will. No skin off my nose.

Great idea onebrow! I provided 10 facts from post 46-53 for you to go through to make sure everything is a fact.

Of which a few were, and others were not.

Thanks. An honest "you're telling the truth Jazzy" from you seems fair.

When you tell the truth, I acknowledge it. When you spread a lie, I rebut it. Very fair, indeed.

The absolute silence is deafening.

I do have other things to do beside monitor this board.
 
Thank you for acknowledging it was one peace deal. Not all that amazing since the UAE and Bahrain have already been exchanging in sizeable underground trade with Israel. Meanwhile, he threw the Iran treaty into the dust bin (and later tried to hold Iran to the terms of the treaty). That's still put him slightly negative.



It is true McConnell refused to cooperate on Russian interference, and refused to cooperate on Iran.



He was foolish for thinking he could get McConnell's cooperation.



Money that belonged to Iran, and that we seized illegally.



So is the US.



McConnell was very happy to allow all of it, as long as he didn't have to work with Obama.



For what?



Yes, they colluded without rising to the level of conspiring or actual coordination.



The Iran deal, and it happened in 2017.



A couple of dozen phones, out of hundreds, is not a "white wash", and there would be no point in destroying the phones when the server has records of everything on them.



Yes, less densely populated, rural areas voted for Trump over Clinton. Here in America, we count votes (by state or Congressional district), not counties. Why are you so unAmerican?



The cofounder acknowledged that she has a Marxist affiliation, but there are other cofounders that are not Marxist, and there is no Marxism anywhere on BLM's pages.



Yep. Does Obama being terrible justify Trump being terrible? Are you saying you think Obama was a good President, and you wish Trump lived up to his standard? Or, do you think I worship Obama the way you worship Trump?



No, it is not. I don't know that you lied. I made that very clear. This is a thread about rebutting the many lies you spread, whether you realize they are lies or not.

Now, if you want go around talking about you lying in this thread, I don't mind.



I don't think many people see you as having actual authority to enforce thread topics, and certainly not moral authority.



There is little point, as 1) many are not facts at all but mere claims (some of which are particularly stupid), 2) even when you get links, you don't bother changing your positions, so I have no reason to do so, and 3) you don't provide any links that back up your claims to begin with, at best providing a link that is tangential.



You are free to believe as you will. No skin off my nose.



Of which a few were, and others were not.



When you tell the truth, I acknowledge it. When you spread a lie, I rebut it. Very fair, indeed.



I do have other things to do beside monitor this board.
JazzyFresh pwnt again. For the 1000th time. And yet....
 
Thank you for acknowledging it was one peace deal. Not all that amazing since the UAE and Bahrain have already been exchanging in sizeable underground trade with Israel. Meanwhile, he threw the Iran treaty into the dust bin (and later tried to hold Iran to the terms of the treaty). That's still put him slightly negative.



It is true McConnell refused to cooperate on Russian interference, and refused to cooperate on Iran.



He was foolish for thinking he could get McConnell's cooperation.



Money that belonged to Iran, and that we seized illegally.



So is the US.



McConnell was very happy to allow all of it, as long as he didn't have to work with Obama.



For what?



Yes, they colluded without rising to the level of conspiring or actual coordination.



The Iran deal, and it happened in 2017.



A couple of dozen phones, out of hundreds, is not a "white wash", and there would be no point in destroying the phones when the server has records of everything on them.



Yes, less densely populated, rural areas voted for Trump over Clinton. Here in America, we count votes (by state or Congressional district), not counties. Why are you so unAmerican?



The cofounder acknowledged that she has a Marxist affiliation, but there are other cofounders that are not Marxist, and there is no Marxism anywhere on BLM's pages.



Yep. Does Obama being terrible justify Trump being terrible? Are you saying you think Obama was a good President, and you wish Trump lived up to his standard? Or, do you think I worship Obama the way you worship Trump?



No, it is not. I don't know that you lied. I made that very clear. This is a thread about rebutting the many lies you spread, whether you realize they are lies or not.

Now, if you want go around talking about you lying in this thread, I don't mind.



I don't think many people see you as having actual authority to enforce thread topics, and certainly not moral authority.



There is little point, as 1) many are not facts at all but mere claims (some of which are particularly stupid), 2) even when you get links, you don't bother changing your positions, so I have no reason to do so, and 3) you don't provide any links that back up your claims to begin with, at best providing a link that is tangential.



You are free to believe as you will. No skin off my nose.



Of which a few were, and others were not.



When you tell the truth, I acknowledge it. When you spread a lie, I rebut it. Very fair, indeed.



I do have other things to do beside monitor this board.
Every single answer is bold faced lie. Lol you need to add your name to the thread title.

Opinion are not facts. Your very first lie I'll debunk with an actual link

Obama response to 2016 Russian election meddling had 'many flaws,' Senate report finds

Cut it out'
The committee found that the Obama administration was "not well-postured" to counter the Russian interference campaign and said that while "high-level warnings were delivered to Russian officials, those warnings may or may not have tempered Moscow's activity."
 
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The report said the Obama administration was understandably concerned that a sharp public response to Russia’s meddling could have been interpreted in the U.S. as an attempt to tip the scales in favor of Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. But the report also said the White House — faced with an unprecedented challenge — lacked a clear set of options and that its failure to share information inside the administration hampered its ability to respond.

But don't just take my word for it that Obama failed. Congressman Adam Schiff, who disgraced himself in this process by claiming collusion when Mueller found that none exists, once said that "the Obama administration should have done a lot more." The Washington Post reported that a senior Obama administration official said they "sort of choked" in failing to stop the Russian government's brazen activities. And Obama's ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, said, "The punishment did not fit the crime" about the weak sanctions rolled out after the 2016 election.
 
Every single answer is bold faced lie.

I am unimpressed by your false claim.

Opinion are not facts.

I agree. Neither are hunches and baseless allegations. Feel free to stop with all three.

Your very first lie I'll debunk with an actual link

You did not present an "actual link" that I could find. However, you seem to have pulled from this one:


The committee found that the Obama administration was "not well-postured" to counter the Russian interference campaign and said that while "high-level warnings were delivered to Russian officials, those warnings may or may not have tempered Moscow's activity."

You left out " The committee noted that institutional constraints prevented the administration from acting more aggressively ." Constraints like McConnell.

But don't just take my word for it that Obama failed.

Many people agree Obama failed here, including me. Almost no one factors your word into that decision.

... by claiming collusion when Mueller found that none exists, ...

Mueller did find collusion at the sub-criminal level, and his report says so.
 
I am unimpressed by your false claim.


Mueller did find collusion at the sub-criminal level, and his report says so.
“did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”


Bold face liar clap clap, clap clap clap
 
Philosophically yes, but I was hoping for an actual knife fight where someone ends up getting murdered. I've been told that the ratings matter more than anything.
I don't like violence. I use words to dismantle everything these dudes stand for. Violence is gross.
 
“did not find that the Trump campaign, or anyone associated with it, conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in these efforts, despite multiple efforts from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”

You are quoting Barr's dishonest twisting of the Mueller report, not the Mueller report itself.

Bold face liar clap clap, clap clap clap

Yes, Barr is.
 
I don't like violence. I use words to dismantle everything these dudes stand for.

Yet, all you have accomplished in this thread is to scale back on your claims. You went from claiming multiple peace deals to one peace deal, from saying Mueller/a person white washed phones to the somewhat-less-untruthful claim it was multiple people, etc. Overall, I consider this a success.
 
Yet, all you have accomplished in this thread is to scale back on your claims. You went from claiming multiple peace deals to one peace deal, from saying Mueller/a person white washed phones to the somewhat-less-untruthful claim it was multiple people, etc. Overall, I consider this a success.
All true

Lol everything is true.

 
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