JazzyFresh
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Here's a lie.
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JazzyFresh
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Liar liar liar.
JazzyFresh
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US President Donald Trump has hailed the "dawn of a new Middle East", amid Israel's landmark deals with the United Arab Emirates (UAE) and Bahran.
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Trump hails 'dawn of new Middle East' with UAE-Bahrain-Israel deals
The president hosts a ceremony marking deals between Israel and Gulf states Bahrain and the UAE.
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JazzyFresh
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@One Brow aka pathological liar
The Israel–United Arab Emirates normalization agreement, officially the Abraham Accords Peace Agreement: Treaty of Peace, Diplomatic Relations and Full Normalization Between the United Arab Emirates and the State of Israel,[1]
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The Bahrain–Israel normalization agreement,[1] officially Abraham Accords: Declaration of Peace, Cooperation, and Constructive Diplomatic and Friendly Relations[2] is an agreement to normalize diplomatic and other relations between Bahrain and Israel
en.m.wikipedia.org
The Israel–United Arab Emirates normalization agreement, officially the Abraham Accords Peace Agreement: Treaty of Peace, Diplomatic Relations and Full Normalization Between the United Arab Emirates and the State of Israel,[1]
Israel–United Arab Emirates normalization agreement - Wikipedia
The Bahrain–Israel normalization agreement,[1] officially Abraham Accords: Declaration of Peace, Cooperation, and Constructive Diplomatic and Friendly Relations[2] is an agreement to normalize diplomatic and other relations between Bahrain and Israel
Bahrain–Israel normalization agreement - Wikipedia
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You're right. I've been to Carson City.
And if I was ever in any Psych unit, I'd be giving you or anyone all the hell I could.
JazzyFresh
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The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA; Persian: برنامه جامع اقدام مشترک, romanized: barnāmeye jāme'e eqdāme moshtarak (برجام, BARJAM)), known commonly as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal, is an agreement on the Iranian nuclear program reached in Vienna on July 14, 2015, between Iran and the P5+1 (the five ...
Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action - Wikipedia
What about this lie? You literally don't even know Trump was in office in 2017. I mean wow...
The Israel–United Arab Emirates normalization agreement, officially the Abraham Accords Peace Agreement: Treaty of Peace, Diplomatic Relations and Full Normalization Between the United Arab Emirates and the State of Israel,[1]
Israel–United Arab Emirates normalization agreement - Wikipedia
The Bahrain–Israel normalization agreement,[1] officially Abraham Accords: Declaration of Peace, Cooperation, and Constructive Diplomatic and Friendly Relations[2] is an agreement to normalize diplomatic and other relations between Bahrain and Israel
Bahrain–Israel normalization agreement - Wikipedia
OBtuse can be depended upon to be a stickler for details, but he is always looking at one thing (or another) at any given time. I doubt he can process your proof offered here.
All in all, just roaming the country listening to the radio news, I've heard of quite a few majority Arab countries being interested in deals like this. I think the done deals includes some Euro count like Kosovo and North African countries like Morocco maybe even some central eastern Africa countries and maybe even Islamic majority Asian countries like Indonesia or Malaya, or, incredibly the south Asian countr of Pakistan. Who ever the hell was ever pressured to profess anti-Israeli political stands in the dying age of insane geopolitical militarists hell-bent on middle east wars. Well, we can only hope it is a dying age. The CFR and the RINOs owned by the MIC will do their damned business trying to keep the wars going, for sure.
The deals work like this......"Hey, bro Mohammad..... did you see what Obama did for Iran??? Scared you *****ess I know. Imagine Iran running the whole Arab world. We're scared too, but we're done with fighting your wars. If you want to do something about it, why not join up with Israel in the name of ending Iranian hegemony. And if'n ya wanna do that, we're sure we can do something to help. More trade, less tariffs, and you will look good to investment too."
The thing about debates with committed change agents and their daily talking point guidelines is just this: It's not about truth. It's about change.
I consider Jason's view of terms like "lie" to be somewhat less than the Christian standard. Jason says "It's not a lie if you believe it". That is not the Christian standard. Christian belief is that a statement's correlation with truth is the standard for judgment. It's a sin to tell lies, and a sin to believe lies. Truth is the measure.
OB has a Christian background, I believe, for once affiliating with a Christian group. Jehovah's Witnesses I think. I've been in many debates with JWs, and the truth is they have a better idea of who Jesus was than most mainstream Christians, even Mormons today. Not Mormons like Brigham Young, but Mormons like James E. Talmadge.
I therefore consider OB perhaps the only JFC participant with a residue of basic Christianity.
Early Christian apostacy was in part driven by the claims of Monotheism. It was just too hard to believe in Jesus without equating the Messiah with Jehovah. Paul got that all messed up, so did John.
In the Old Testament, David clearly made the distinction that the Messiah was not Jehovah, saying that Jehovah sent the Messiah, and brought him back to sit at His right hand "until I make your enemies your footstool." Jesus never even tried to overthrow any government or church, but did what his Father required, and gave himself as an example and as a sacrifice.
In the last days, when Jesus comes again, the war will be over. Jesus won't command one military operation.
At the Day of Judgment, according to Daniel, Jehovah will sit in judgment, and Jesus will be brought forward and made a prince over the human family, because he is the one who made it possible for us to return to the presence of God.
I'm in here as a sort of missionary to the Marxists. A strange calling, for sure.
But for any true believer, the utopia the Marxists see is a rehash of the Christian millenia. Whatever is loveable about Marxism was borrowed from Christianity.
Just kinda hard for us to do all that without Jesus.
OK. So I should expect a lot of dislikes on this, from the committed change agent talkers.
So here's the lie about being in JFC as a political hack working the talking points. You're not in here for basketball, really. I am at least a family connected to Jazz ownership, but before I go to the Jazz people and say, hey, look at this political abuse of your brand, I'd like to just offer a few kind words. I have had friends of perhaps every political stripe, and from almost every country in the world. I like people, and I like to actually understand or know why they believe or affiliate as they do. You could say I'm a classic liberal. I think human belief is a thing that needs to be protected so far as possible.
I haven't tried to tie in all the ties here. I think I have a family connection with Colton as well, if he's related to the founder of the Hinckley Institute of Politics at the University of Utah, it's a fact. My great aunt is his great aunt as well. Not close enough to be significant, but still.
The very act of hijacking, or starting, or coming into a sports thread with a political agenda means that your cause in your mind is a greater consideration than just being a fan.
If we could just make some transition in here to where political views are amusing, interesting, and incidental to the sports, we would all be al lot more honest.
So, anyway, I have no need to score a political "win" here.
I just think the idea of trying to otherize a contributor or isolate a contributor for special ostracization is wrong-headed.
The idea is we're Jazz Fanz.
Peace.
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JazzyFresh
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I thought you ignored me? Another lie.
yah.
I've got better things to do.
JazzyFresh seems to enjoy proving his points anyway.
Sure, he believes someone in here cares what is "True", but what the hell.
I just decided to make up a new award for JFC performances........ JazzyFresh nominated for the "Sancho Award". I'd like to instigate two other awards, the "Cervantes Award" and the "Don Quixote Award".
I'd suggest a review of the novel before offering nominations or seconding or otherwise supporting a nomination.
As I get it. Cervantes wrote the novel trying to disillusion the coming age regarding ideals of chivalry, basically mocking the concept. "Don Quixote" was the obviously mistaken supporter of the old age of idealism, and Sancho was his straight man who consistently tried to help with offerings of truth.
In comparison, today's "progressivism" is the idealism that is insupportable by facts. The whole ball of contrived wax, including globalism, Marxism, Manifest Destiny, and Constitutionalism, all of which are claimed by advocates as some damn sort of progress.
JazzyFresh is doing a fair Sancho gig, speaking truth to this ship of fools that is just plain unwanted.
I figure someone who gives a damn and has a sense of humor might nominate me for the Cervantes award, or maybe someone will nominate Thriller for the Don Quixote spot.
The Thriller
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Is babe Jazzfresh? I have them both on ignore (thank goodness). Just how many damn accounts does @Heathme @JazzyFresh @Political Jazz Fan @hack @babe have? And I’m sure by the end of the week he will have created several more. Just a sad and desperate cry for help and attention.
JazzyFresh
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Wow didn't know this guy had words. Dudes entire schtick is to post tweets then act like hes the one who said it. Well that and to tell people that he put them on ignore but somehow always knows the conversation. Always lol. Dude nobody cares that you put them on ignore, you don't have to tell us about it 3-4 times a day. Talk about an attention seeker, not even most alt left people here respond to your inhuman bigotry.
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NAOS
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Oof, you’re missing hard on this one. JazzyFresh is like some kind of primitive slave-mind who’s trying to reproduce to the disillusioning tale within an hour of hearing The Master whisper segments of it into his ear. And he doesn’t have any idea how captured he is, or what he’s pushing toward.
And progressivism is a pretty broad tent; it certainly is nothing as simple as the thumbnail you just gave it.
Why don’t you ride your Cosmic Cowboy Post-Mormonism over to a spot where you become an ally for working people in 2020. You’ll find yourself somewhere in the progressive tent.
NAOS
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I’d be very surprised and disappointed if babe was JazzyFresh
JazzyFresh
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Thought you ignored me
I haven't gone out looking for JazzyFresh posts for setting my schedule in life yet, but I think Thriller has a pretty good list of members who've come here to yank his chain.
I appreciate it very much when anyone remembers Ain't aka Ain'tnothing aka I think about twenty other handles, not because I'm a sleezeball moralist but because he put some spin on the old fastball mockery of this site. You could say he had an IQ above the flush line in your toilet, even when he was packing fudge.
Don't know why I put it that way. In real life, I sometimes find the unbalanced mentalities focusing a lot of bilious rhetoric on their own painful departures from their own ideals of the better life they wished they go just go back to. God doesn't give extra credit for confessing the sins of others, but I think He understands the conflicted soul, and in truth can see my point here. It's a lot easier to confess your sins in others' lives, and it is at least a start in dealing with your issues. The Dem Party has done a whole lot of this during the Trump Presidency. A lot of projection on others of their own wickedness. It's about as close as some can come to facing their own sins.
Somehow, I have formed an idea that you're a Californian with some real life associations with like-minded folks who really help one another cooperatively-like. And still very concerned about the rising CO2.
Here's an idea: Get some people together with some backhoes, chainsaws, and industrial tractor-scale lawn mowers and woodmulchers and ask the Forest Service where they want some firebreaks. Gotta be a helluva lot of CO2 unnecessarily accelerated back across the normal decay cycle in those fires. Imagine. All that stuff can be stuffed into big stainless steel tanks and heated to decomposition. You get charcoal good for filtering water of heavy metals, and you get some natural gas and gasoline and jet fuel too. Net energy gain, just not financially viable. Until to factor in what it will save in property loss and lives lost and environment degradation and quality of life and health care and firefighting costs which are several times the cost of doing this.
In Berkeley, I see some places called Urban Mining which basically process junk and return it to supply stocks of basic metals or even strategic materials. The reason these places don't earn a living is because virgin resources are still too cheap. I'm socialist enough to wanna tax the virgin producers and subsidize the recyclers.
I think raw materials producers should pay a fee for what they mine or grow, and that those fees should subsidize recycling of their products.
Cartelists have fought off this idea calling it government meddling and taxation, and RINOs and Chamber of Commerce folks get big donations from lumber companies and mining companies for deep sixing it. Then the same cartelists buy a Joe Biden, too. The end result is that a few of the leading cartelists get some real protection from the government while their upstart competition gets the dagger in the back.
As something of a real conservative, I don't want the government picking winners and losers in commerce, business, services, or industry. The government will only get honest when it has no power to sell to special interests.
And that's the only way we'll ever get anything like ideal cooperative enterprises that are primarily responsive to their unit members. We need more ways for people to get together and work things out locally, not more centralized governance.
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Well, they do ignore you. The same way my kids ignore me pretending not to hear.