Thread for responding to lies spread by JazzyFresh

[Beer]

People in love do stupid things. I don't disagree there.

Being dumb and in love doesn't get you a pass as far as committing crimes go though. So who cares why she "allegedly" did what she did? The warrant seems reasonable. The tactics executing it seem stupid. Her BF acted unreasonably imo and now she's dead. Because of his actions she is dead and the cops will not be charged. Pretty much a 100% chance she isn't killed if her BF doesn't start shooting into the dark, and definitely a 100% chance she isn't killed if the cops don't either. But the fact is her BF shot first so no matter what Don or LBJ want to say the cops were within their right to return fire and so she was maybe just unlucky, but also maybe a willing participant. I'm sure more facts will come out. But as far as I can tell she wasn't just some completely innocent EMT in training. She was being dumb with dumb people and dumb + dumb + dumb = bad outcomes most of the time.

This is not a race issue.

 

[One Brow]

Being dumb and in love doesn't get you a pass as far as committing crimes go though. So who cares why she "allegedly" did what she did?

Picking up money owed to another person is also not a crime.

Her BF acted unreasonably imo and now she's dead.

At one point, when we were having discussions about guns in here, many posters seemed to be of the opinion that shooting home invaders was completely acceptable. How long do you think Walker should have waited before shooting?

This is not a race issue.

Glover's race played a role in the decisions of the police to track him (not necessarily consciously). Taylor's race played a role in the timing and manner that the warrant was executed (not necessarily consciously). That's without even considering the way race plays into wealth transfer, the options Taylor has for dating generally, and a host of other issues.

However, if you mean in the very narrow sense that the police would have been clear of shooting a white person under these circumstances, then I agree.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Glover's race played a role in the decisions of the police to track him (not necessarily consciously). Taylor's race played a role in the timing and manner that the warrant was executed (not necessarily consciously). That's without even considering the way race plays into wealth transfer, the options Taylor has for dating generally, and a host of other issues.

However, if you mean in the very narrow sense that the police would have been clear of shooting a white person under these circumstances, then I agree.

Can you provide proof behind this first paragraph?

 

[Beer]

Picking up money owed to another person is also not a crime.



At one point, when we were having discussions about guns in here, many posters seemed to be of the opinion that shooting home invaders was completely acceptable. How long do you think Walker should have waited before shooting?



Glover's race played a role in the decisions of the police to track him (not necessarily consciously). Taylor's race played a role in the timing and manner that the warrant was executed (not necessarily consciously). That's without even considering the way race plays into wealth transfer, the options Taylor has for dating generally, and a host of other issues.

However, if you mean in the very narrow sense that the police would have been clear of shooting a white person under these circumstances, then I agree.

Sure, but when it’s patently obvious it is drug money you are opening yourself to police getting all up in your ****. And maybe getting a warrant. I think people play dumb when it’s convenient.

 

[One Brow]

It's good to see that you approve of Joe Biden having corrupt prosecutors removed.

Hoax number 1543354533

Trump's own testimony is a hoax?

Whataboutisms as always.

I agree this whole Hunter Biden nonsense is a huge whataboutism designed to support Trump. Nice to come to an agreement, right?

Short on time atm but here... PLOB ...

"You're literally only mad because I dismantled everything you stand for."

...openly calling it a documentary ...

That was an error on my part. It's not a documentary. I misread an article on it. I apologize for the error.

...and getting on me for opposing it.

I'm still curious why you're opposed to film that condemns pre-teen sexuality. Let me know.

Can you provide proof behind this first paragraph?

Decades of research into how racism operates.

 

[One Brow]

Sure, but when it’s patently obvious it is drug money you are opening yourself to police getting all up in your ****. And maybe getting a warrant. I think people play dumb when it’s convenient.

It was definitely dumb, especially if she did it (as opposed to just telling Glover she was going to do it.

 

[Beer]

It was definitely dumb, especially if she did it (as opposed to just telling Glover she was going to do it.

Let’s be real. She was involved with more than a few drug dealers. She was helping them secure payments and resolve drug debts. She was not some goodie 2 shoes emt. That is a 100% bald faced lie. Not true at all. The cops had very reasonable suspicion to execute a warrant. Her a bf shot at the cops first. She was right by her bf who was shooting the cops when she was killed.

it sucks but she is not the innocent princess the media wants you to believe and don and lbj act like she is.

She was an irresponsible girl who made bad decisions on who she was associated with. She was killed because of the people she associated with.
It sucks but she made her bed.

 

[One Brow]

Let’s be real. She was involved with more than a few drug dealers.

In the Tatum document, on page 5, Glover has to tell her how to get A. Walker's (Glover's partner, from what I can tell) contact information on face book, because she doesn't even know his name. BTW, I had trouble finding the page where Taylor agreed to pick up drug money, as opposed to contacting A. Walker. Could you remind me of that one?

So, who are these "more than a few" dealers?

She was helping them secure payments and resolve drug debts. She was not some goodie 2 shoes emt. That is a 100% bald faced lie. Not true at all. The cops had very reasonable suspicion to execute a warrant. Her a bf shot at the cops first. She was right by her bf who was shooting the cops when she was killed.

I don't recall claiming she was a goody-two-shoes. I agree the police had a reason to be suspicious; that does not contradict that that Taylor did not commit a crime. She was indeed standing by K. Walker when he fired a single shot ("was shooting" indicates an event that extends over a period of time, so is not accurate) at people that turned out to be police (even though neither of them knew it). Her boyfriend was also innocent, BTW.

it sucks but she is not the innocent princess the media wants you to believe and don and lbj act like she is.

She's only innocent in the sense that we don't know of any crimes she committed. Innocent enough that Glover refused to sign a plea deal that implicated her.

She was an irresponsible girl who made bad decisions on who she was associated with. She was killed because of the people she associated with.
It sucks but she made her bed.

At the time of the shooting, Glover was her ex and she was with a completely legit guy. So, just as she was turning her associations around, she was killed.

So, what is the point of this dialogue? Are you saying that Taylor was responsible for her own death? If not, then what are you saying?

 

[One Brow]

So it appears that the Rapist Woman Beater(I won't make him a hero like NAOS and other Democrats here) was stealing said car and kidnapping the children. It's alleged that the woman he literally beat and raped(Democrats favorites) was screaming for the cops to protect her children.

The headline of the linked article, and the police in the article, talk about Blake twisting before he was shot. Blake did not twist before he was. When they state a lie (that is obvious from a quick re-watch of the video), how are we supposed to trust the rest?

 

[Jazz4ever]

One Brow what punishment do you think is fitting?

 

[One Brow]

One Brow what punishment do you think is fitting?

For Jacob Blake?

To my knowledge, the most serious offense levied against him was sexual contact. I think that deserves a few years in prison.

 

[JazzyFresh]

The headline of the linked article, and the police in the article, talk about Blake twisting before he was shot. Blake did not twist before he was. When they state a lie (that is obvious from a quick re-watch of the video), how are we supposed to trust the rest?

Can you provide the videos?

How can you tell? You're literally just making **** up with no proof. You need to start adding links and evidence because this opinionated stuff lying as facts is tiresome. Your opinions are not facts.

 

[JazzyFresh]

It's good to see that you approve of Joe Biden having corrupt prosecutors removed.



Trump's own testimony is a hoax?



I agree this whole Hunter Biden nonsense is a huge whataboutism designed to support Trump. Nice to come to an agreement, right?



"You're literally only mad because I dismantled everything you stand for."



That was an error on my part. It's not a documentary. I misread an article on it. I apologize for the error.



I'm still curious why you're opposed to film that condemns pre-teen sexuality. Let me know.



Decades of research into how racism operates.

Just admit you can't provide an ounce of actual evidence. Just like "it's in the blood". You say they targeted Glover because he's black but you literally made that up. You make everything up and can't provide any evidence behind your lying

 

[Getting Traded]

RE: One Brow's claim of collusion between Trump and Russia, I agree, but I don't think it made much difference. Hillary was a bad candidate and it was Wikileaks who did more damage.

 

[One Brow]

These BLM Protesters Aren't Hiding Their Hate, Shouting Tyrannical Iran's Favorite Chant: 'Death to America'

Another lie (mostly by Ngo). On the video you can clearly hear it's only a handful of voices, and at most two are the people in front of the camera, while most are off to the side somewhere.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Another lie (mostly by Ngo). On the video you can clearly hear it's only a handful of voices, and at most two are the people in front of the camera, while most are off to the side somewhere.

Sure. Where's your proof? As always you just talk right out of your *** and provide no evidence.

 

[One Brow]

Sure. Where's your proof? As always you just talk right out of your *** and provide no evidence.

My proof is the video you linked to, which I was describing.

 

[JazzyFresh]

My proof is the video you linked to, which I was describing.

That's not proof, thats you literally making up lies.

 

[One Brow]

Just admit you can't provide an ounce of actual evidence.

That would be a lie. I won't bother, because the research is easily available and link you to it won't change your mind.

You say they targeted Glover because he's black but you literally made that up.

Again, there are many peer-reviewed studies on differential policing.

You make everything up and can't provide any evidence behind your lying

I can, but why should I? If I provide 5 studies on differential policing, or 10, or 20, you would ignore it anyhow. So why bother. You want me to dance, you got to put some money in the cup (metaphorically).

 

[One Brow]

How can you tell?

You linked to a video that, slowed down, showed there was no twisting by Blake until after the first shot. All anyone has to do is watch it.