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Jazz4ever said:
I mean they will if the Dems take the Senate and Biden passes in a year. There is a reason Bernie Sanders keeps losing.
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Bernie sanders keeps losing because Democrats don't want socialism. Otherwise Bernie would be winning. Bernie is the name that gets thrown around with socialism the most from what I remember yet can't win anything.

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fishonjazz said:
Bernie sanders keeps losing because Democrats don't want socialism. Otherwise Bernie would be winning. Bernie is the name that gets thrown around with socialism the most from what I remember yet can't win anything.

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Some Democrats genuinely want socialism, just not enough to get more than an odd Congressperson elected now and again.
 
fishonjazz said:
Nah I would rather not have the bullies and jerks fight for me. Id rather go it alone in that case.

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Vote your conscience. I'm just saying that Trump has always been this way. He was never about decorum or political correctness. He was elected last time to throw a wrench at the political establishment (of both parties) and the liberal media elites. He is who he is, yet pundits try to analyze him the way they do other politicians.
 
Catchall said:
I think low-key one of Trump's best moments was talking about the companies like Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson who are close to releasing a vaccine. That's actually a big accomplishment. It became an argument about whether the vaccine would be ready this year or early next year, but either way, it's an achievement.
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Yes and while he denied the virus was a democratic hoax and would simply go away. He did nothing about a vaccine. Now he is trying to slam it through before the election even if it isn't safe. Of course these companies that were given billions of dollars to find a vaccine will certainly charge a fair price? LMAO. Trump only cares about winning the election he doesn't give a crap about anyone but himself and maybe Ivanka. We know why too? The guy is morally corrupt and his enablers just look the other way when it comes to his criminal tax games. I find it ironic considering how big of a cow GOPers had when Obama worn a tan suit. Please tell me how anyone spends 70,000 dollars on haircuts in a year? I have never heard of an employee of a company being paid as an employee and consultant? Could you explain how that isn't tax fraud?
 
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cowhide said:
wow someone has drank the Faux News kool-aid. Very few democrats that I know want open boarders. What they want are fair treatment of immigrants whether they are legal or not. You GOPers forget that Obama deported many illegal immigrants and also had a bi-partisan immigration bill ready to go but Mitch I block anything Obama wanted to do, kept it on his desk without a vote. Medicare already exists in America so they just want everyone to have an opportunity to have it. Our healthcare system is ranked somewhere around 40th in the world and healthcare for profit is bankrupting many families and keep millions from getting basic care. When are we going to get this cheap and better healthcare Trump promised when elected. Crickets!!!!

All republicans do is rewrite history, they still claim WMDs were found and Iraq was behind 9/11. They have given us the white washed version of America history where the white guys are the good guys and the Indians were the bad guys etc.. If you support the Confederate traitors then you are not a real American. Those statues that were put up years after the events were used for intimidation of blacks in America. Newsflash the confederate traitors LOST and should have never been able to erect any statues. What is next? Should we invite Japan to erect statues in Pearl Harbor or maybe the British can come over and erect some statues to falsely glamorize their LOSSES. Of course not and the same should have been the same for the confederate traitors who lost and then killed the honorable Abraham Lincoln. They deserved to be banned and imprisoned for their failed attempt of destroying the Union.
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First, I'm not a Republican. Second, I rarely watch Fox. Third, wtf are you talking about with 9/11 and WMDs in Iraq, as if that has to do with anything we're talking about?

I guess I should have written TRIGGER WARNING on one of my posts. My bad.
 
cowhide said:
Yes and while he denied the virus was a democratic hoax and would simply go away. He did nothing about a vaccine. Now he is trying to slam it through before the election even if it isn't safe. Of course these companies that were given billions of dollars to find a vaccine will certainly charge a fair price? LMAO. Trump only cares about winning the election he gives a crap about no one but himself and may Ivanka. We know why too? The guy is morally corrupt and is enablers just look the other way when it comes to his criminal tax games. I find it ironic considering how big of a cow GOPers had when Obama worn a tan suit. Please tell me how anyone spends 70,000 dollars on haircuts? I have never heard of an employee of a company being paid as an employee and consultant? Could you explain how that isn't tax fraud?
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First of all, no one believes Trump's hair is natural. It's probably cultivated from a rare breed of fine Peruvian alpaca. Very expensive.
 
Catchall said:
Vote your conscience. I'm just saying that Trump has always been this way. He was never about decorum or political correctness. He was elected last time to throw a wrench at the political establishment (of both parties) and the liberal media elites. He is who he is, yet pundits try to analyze him the way they do other politicians.
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So you are admitting that it is ok for Trump to act the way he acts but others are held to a higher standard. Sorry but the president represents the country and Trumps behavior is juvenile at best and at its worse it is dangerous. Yes I was waiting for the "liberal media elites" to show up in your arguments. Unfortunately, you are voting for a person who use to hangout with those elites and who brags about his elite education. He was elected because the GOP lying machine creates fear to fearful people who were appalled that a black man was president. Throw in a bunch of rich people salivating for more tax cuts and that is why Trump is president. Oh and also the most important tool the GOP has, the electoral college.
 
zyzz said:
I'm more intrigued with the VP debates. Pence sucks and has the charisma of soggy cardboard, but Harris is an unknown to a lot of people. And Pence is a career politician so he won't just be yelling nonsense the whole time. He has such a low bar to cross from Trump's debate performance.
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The VP debate is due to take place at the University of Utah btw. I saw them setting up a tent outside Kingsbury Hall.
 
Catchall said:
Some Democrats genuinely want socialism, just not enough to get more than an odd Congressperson elected now and again.
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Exactly. Socialism doesn't have enough support to happen. It's a word used to create fear that doesn't need to exist. A bogeyman.

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Catchall said:
First, I'm not a Republican. Second, I rarely watch Fox. Third, wtf are you talking about with 9/11 and WMDs in Iraq, as if that has to do with anything we're talking about?

I guess I should have written TRIGGER WARNING on one of my posts. My bad.
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I was using them as an example of rewriting history as your comment suggested liberals were doing. Well you sound like a republican. That is what my father says too. But he votes republican every election. Well you certainly have hit Fox news talking points. If you are using satire or trying to start a debate then maybe you should put your comments into context. If you did and I miss them then I apologize but stand behind my arguments.
 
The VP debate will be more civil. It also won’t move the race either direction; they simply don’t shift the field.
 
Well... that was a dumpster fire. So so so bad. Very discouraging. I can't believe we've been give two old idiots as our only choices for president. I hate the two party system.
 
Avery said:
The VP debate will be more civil. It also won’t move the race either direction; they simply don’t shift the field.
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Maybe it's rare, but Biden destroying Paul Ryan helped Obama greatly when he started out struggling in his debates against Romney
 
Avery said:
The VP debate will be more civil. It also won’t move the race either direction; they simply don’t shift the field.
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This year it should matter more. I wouldn't be at all surprised if trump and Biden both die within the next 4 years
I think they are already past the life expectancy. Trump is a fatass and Biden looks to have a foot in the grave all while there is a pandemic that seems to target fatasses and elderly.

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