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2020 Presidential Debates

Oh yeah Trump also said Insulin is as cheap as water and bragged about bringing back Big 10 football for some reason
 
Catchall said:
One of the most messy, chaotic spectacles I've ever seen. Probably a wash, I guess. I'm not sure it changed many people's opinions.

Trump was throwing his weight around and asserting his view very aggressively. He was needling and heckling at Joe. You could interpret that as a powerful expression of his convictions or just plain annoying. Joe then got down in the mud and started interrupting as well.

Biden was strong at the beginning talking about Trump's handling of covid, but he didn't offer anything concrete as an alternative recourse.

Trump was strongest on law & order, calling out Antifa and asking Joe to name one police organization that endorsed him. Joe took the Jerry Nadler position and said that Antifa doesn't really exist, and he said that "we don't have time" for him to talk about police who support him.

Trump also did well in making a case for keeping the cities open rather than locking them down for covid. I think this is actually a bigger issue in the election than a lot of pundits are saying. A lot of people are not happy with the lockdowns, they're tired of them, and a lot of people might express that with their vote.
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People should be more worried that the sitting president refused to condemn white national Poor Boys and told them to be ready. Law and order when it is people are protesting racism in America but not when it is white collar corruption and people who are his friends. The tax cheat is going to jail when he gets out of office whenever that is. Yes it is ok to kill more people as long as the Dow is doing well. just as many people are tired of people dying and worrying about dying.
 
Catchall said:
The argument is that leftists will try to turn the U.S. more socialist and Biden will be too weak and tired to do anything about it.
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Oh yeah, the "Do Nothing Democrats" never get things done... but they will turn the US socialist! Nothing but fear mongering
 
zyzz said:
Oh yeah, the "Do Nothing Democrats" never get things done... but they will turn the US socialist! Nothing but fear mongering
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Well, the Green New Deal, open borders, socialized medicine, riots in the streets, and rewriting American history, while removing statues are socialist initiatives. The ones that go before Congress will get shot down though.
 
Catchall said:
The argument is that leftists will try to turn the U.S. more socialist and Biden will be too weak and tired to do anything about it.
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All the while Trump is pissing on the Constitution and becoming a dictator. Attacking the press, loving other dictators, Socialism is a word that Trump uses to scare people because they don't want anyone talking about how Capitalism has created an income inequality bigger than the Grand Canyon in this country, You know all those programs paid by tax payers money, i.e. social security, Medicare, public education, police, fire depart., roads, security/military-GI Bill.
 
Catchall said:
Unless he's a bully and a jerk who will fight for you. That's what got him elected in 2016.
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Nah I would rather not have the bullies and jerks fight for me. Id rather go it alone in that case.

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Catchall said:
I think low-key one of Trump's best moments was talking about the companies like Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson who are close to releasing a vaccine. That's actually a big accomplishment. It became an argument about whether the vaccine would be ready this year or early next year, but either way, it's an achievement.
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I agree it's an achievement. How its Trump's achievement I don't understand.

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