Coronavirus

[NAOS]

Yep, totally agree. One reason I’ve been consistently pointing out the existence of “long haulers” where Covid-19 is concerned. Every single time someone points out death rate, or the average age of those who die from Covid, etc. Yes, death is a worst case scenario, but losing one’s quality of life is no small thing. It is the persistence of debilitating conditions like brain fog, as well as other chronic problems, that led to the creation of Survivor Corps.

Survivor Corps

www.survivorcorps.com

Yep, long hauling and dying alone have clearly emerged as the darkest dimensions of this disease. Imo.

 

[Scat]

This can't be good.

Covid patient 'becomes first in world to die after being reinfected'

Researchers said the woman's second infection was much more severe than the first.

metro.co.uk

 

[One Brow]

This can't be good.

There's little point in a vaccine if you can be reinfected.

 

[LogGrad98]

There's little point in a vaccine if you can be reinfected.

The problems is it is multi-strain. They need a vaccine for as many strains and they can, like of like the flu shot does already. The big problem is there isn't a lot of info on which strains are worst.

 

[infection]

There's little point in a vaccine if you can be reinfected.

Not exactly. Many vaccines are augmented with adjuvants that boost the immune response. So, in theory, even if you had a disease where initial infection did not provide enough immune building to ward off future infections, you could (theoretically) engineer a vaccine with adjuvants that boosts the immune response. Many vaccines have adjuvants.

However, this is like lightening striking in the same place twice. It's an old wive's tale that it can't happen because you don't see it often. Of course it can happen. It's just not common at all. With nearly 40 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 world-wide (and with the the WHO recently coming out stating that they believe 10% of the world's population has already been infected [that'd be 780 million, if correct]), of course there will be reinfections. Influenza can re-infect people, as can nearly any infectious disease. It's just that it's not common. But publication bias will keep this alive for a while.

I stand by my comment, however, that by the time a vaccine is broadly available, it will no longer be needed in the sense that it's necessary for curbing the pandemic.

 

[The Thriller]

So what do Utah’s new restrictions mean? I see the Gov Herbert made some announcement today.

 

[Beer]

So what do Utah’s new restrictions mean? I see the Gov Herbert made some announcement today.

While being all for slowing the curve and saving lives, Herbert is also being a legit tard in how he is handling things. There is no rhyme, reason, or logic as to what they are doing. I don't blame people for being frustrated and not wanting to play along.

6,500 people in a 65,000 person stadium is not ok but 1,500 people in a 3,500 seat arena is good to go. Both outside. They are just throwing **** at walls and hoping for the best instead of being reasonable or logical.

 

[magic]

This is fine. Everything’s fine

"Experts" obviously know best, claiming there would be 480,000 deaths by the first week of May 2020 (The Thriller posted this on 3/7/20).

But liberals will keep ignoring facts that don't support their agenda.

 

[The Thriller]

"Experts" obviously know best, claiming there would be 480,000 deaths by the first week of May 2020 (The Thriller posted this on 3/7/20).

But liberals will keep ignoring facts that don't support their agenda.

Reading is hard, I understand. But even for you this is embarrassing. Read the entire thread, child.

 

[magic]

Reading is hard, I understand. But even for you this is embarrassing. Read the entire thread, child.

Ok, even though it's an estimate for the entire year, that number is still way off. Learn how to compare numbers, pig.

 

[The Thriller]

Ok, even though it's an estimate for the entire year, that number is still way off. Learn how to compare numbers, pig.

you sound nice.

Pretty sure we’re still on track to have 400,000 deaths by January. That’s “way off?”

 

[magic]

you sound nice.

Pretty sure we’re still on track to have 400,000 deaths by January. That’s “way off?”

First, even if the number ended up being 400K that's still 16.7% off, which is a pretty huge error.

Second, by claiming we are on track for 400K deaths, you are asserting that there will be ~176,000 deaths from now until Dec 31, 2020. 176k deaths in 76 days.

How about we make a bet. If there are 400K or more covid19 deaths by the end of the year, you win and I delete my account. If there are less than 400k covid19 deaths by then, I win and you delete your account.

 

[JazzGal]

Why would any normal person want to bet on peoples' deaths?

Sent from my moto z3 using JazzFanz mobile app

 

[The Thriller]

First, even if the number ended up being 400K that's still 16.7% off, which is a pretty huge error.

Second, by claiming we are on track for 400K deaths, you are asserting that there will be ~176,000 deaths from now until Dec 31, 2020. 176k deaths in 76 days.

How about we make a bet. If there are 400K or more covid19 deaths by the end of the year, you win and I delete my account. If there are less than 400k covid19 deaths by then, I win and you delete your account.

First of all, I’m not betting on that. Why would you think that would be an appropriate bet? Would you really feel good about that? I understand that online people say things that they normally wouldn’t in person, but that is was a wildly inappropriate thing to say.

Secondly, how accurate should experts be when projecting pandemic statistics? What is your background in epidemiology anyway?

Lastly, I’m not sure what your agenda is here. Diminish confidence in experts? Build Trust in the morons on Facebook? Experts have never claimed to be 100 percent accurate. But they know a hell of a lot more than your average person. Expertise matters!

Your last few posts have been demeaning and offensive. You’ve been unnecessarily combative and trivializing towards the effects of this virus. So be careful with this next post.

 

[The Thriller]

Why would any normal person want to bet on peoples' deaths?

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Yeah, that’s honestly one of the top 5 weirdest things anyone has ever said to me on this website. Super weird and incredibly insensitive. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that as well.

 

[Jazz4ever]

Yeah, that’s honestly one of the top 5 weirdest things anyone has ever said to me on this website. Super weird and incredibly insensitive. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thought that as well.

The U.S. has been averaging around 700 deaths a day very consistently for the last 3 months. We will be under 300,000 if that holds true so why would you say 400k??

 

[The Thriller]

The U.S. has been averaging around 700 deaths a day very consistently for the last 3 months. We will be under 300,000 if that holds true so why would you say 400k??

From what I’ve read, experts admit that we’re getting better at treatment but our new cases are exploding. So our ability to save lives is unfortunately negated by our exploding case rates. Forty-one states are seeing increasing cases and over 10 of them just saw record weeks (utah being one of them). That means hospitals will soon be overrun and deaths will follow. The ICU at the U already reports that is over capacity. That puts significant strains on our system. In fact, they describe it as “unsustainable.”

Hospital ICU now over capacity in 'unsustainable' coronavirus spike

One of Utah's largest hospitals had no beds left Friday in its regular intensive-care unit as the governor declared the state's weeks-long spike in coronavirus cases unsustainable. Caption: KUTV: Jeremy Harris reports Dr. Russell Vinik, the chief medical officer at University of Utah, says the...

kutv.com

This is even before cold and flu season settles in. Again, our nation’s experts project much more sickness and death ahead of us because of our nation's Lack of leadership. In fact, one can easily make the case that Donald is exacerbating the problem by holding large super spreader events and with his continued politicizing of masks. We can’t contain the virus if containment policies aren’t enforced by state leaders and containment behaviors are mocked by large segments of the population. Refusing to follow science takes a toll.

'A harrowing time.' Ten states reported their highest number of new coronavirus cases on Friday

Ten states reported their highest single-day tallies of new Covid-19 infections Friday, and the country reported its highest one-day total since July, as experts say a dangerous fall surge of coronavirus infections is well underway.

www.cnn.com

 

[Eminence]

I personally expect closer to 300k at the end of the year (I hope), but that's in no way a success.

 

[Jazz4ever]

From what I’ve read, experts admit that we’re getting better at treatment but our new cases are exploding. So our ability to save lives is unfortunately negated by our exploding case rates. Forty-one states are seeing increasing cases and over 10 of them just saw record weeks (utah being one of them). That means hospitals will soon be overrun and deaths will follow. The ICU at the U already reports that is over capacity. That puts significant strains on our system. In fact, they describe it as “unsustainable.”

Hospital ICU now over capacity in 'unsustainable' coronavirus spike

One of Utah's largest hospitals had no beds left Friday in its regular intensive-care unit as the governor declared the state's weeks-long spike in coronavirus cases unsustainable. Caption: KUTV: Jeremy Harris reports Dr. Russell Vinik, the chief medical officer at University of Utah, says the...

kutv.com

This is even before cold and flu season settles in. Again, our nation’s experts project much more sickness and death ahead of us because of our nation's Lack of leadership. In fact, one can easily make the case that Donald is exacerbating the problem by holding large super spreader events and with his continued politicizing of masks. We can’t contain the virus if containment policies aren’t enforced by state leaders and containment behaviors are mocked by large segments of the population. Refusing to follow science takes a toll.

'A harrowing time.' Ten states reported their highest number of new coronavirus cases on Friday

Ten states reported their highest single-day tallies of new Covid-19 infections Friday, and the country reported its highest one-day total since July, as experts say a dangerous fall surge of coronavirus infections is well underway.

www.cnn.com

I think 350K is the worst case scenario. Our surging cases are in line with many other countries. It's almost like nature is pretty untameable...

Coronavirus: Germany hits record daily increase in cases – DW – 10/15/2020

Germany posted over 6,000 new cases. Levels like this have not been seen since the start of the pandemic. German citizens' behavior will influence how Christmas is celebrated this year, warned Health Minister Jens Spahn.

www.dw.com

France registers a record 30,000 new coronavirus cases in 24 hours

Prime Minister Jean Castex made the revelation on Twitter, calling on French citizens to understand the seriousness of the situation.

www.euronews.com

Italy and U.K report record coronavirus surges

It comes as Europe is facing a potential second wave.

www.axios.com

 

[The Thriller]

I think 350K is the worst case scenario. Our surging cases are in line with many other countries. It's almost like nature is pretty untameable...

Coronavirus: Germany hits record daily increase in cases – DW – 10/15/2020

Germany posted over 6,000 new cases. Levels like this have not been seen since the start of the pandemic. German citizens' behavior will influence how Christmas is celebrated this year, warned Health Minister Jens Spahn.

www.dw.com

France registers a record 30,000 new coronavirus cases in 24 hours

Prime Minister Jean Castex made the revelation on Twitter, calling on French citizens to understand the seriousness of the situation.

www.euronews.com

Italy and U.K report record coronavirus surges

It comes as Europe is facing a potential second wave.

www.axios.com

Opening up restaurants, gyms, bars, and borders is going to be a challenge until there’s a vaccine. Which is why mediation efforts are needed. We should avoid large super spreader rallies, wear masks as much as possible, have as much testing as possible. But we aren’t even trying that here.

I also think we shouldn’t forget that many other countries have contained the virus through masks, social distancing, and testing. South Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan, Thailand, Canada, denmark, and Germany have all set great examples. Too bad we’ve ignored them.