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NUMBERICA said:
Woodard is a clunky player if viewed as a wing. I see his real potential as a 4 and maybe even as a 5. Good rebounder, built like a truck, shows real ability to protect the rim (and we really could use a second-line rim protector against spread offenses, especially ones that have the athleticism to cover ground).

His off-the-bounce play is bad and his shot is slow and weird. Slotting him as a perimeter player (rather than a stretchy, switch, bouncy big) is a mistake in my mind and whether he sinks or swims in this league might be determined by how a team sees and utilizes him positionally.
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I'll withhold judgment on Woodward's offensive potential as a wing, as I can't find any more Mississippi State games on youtube. But I do suspect that if the Jazz take him, it's with the idea of filling the 4-spot offensively and much of the time defensively (even if he gets labeled as a SF). I'm leery of expecting a 5 out of him, however, except in unusual circumstances. Size (including height) matters there. Might as well go with Juwan Morgan for the 4/5 role (or Achiuwa/Reed). What makes Woodward attractive to me is that he can go down to the 2 or 3 spot to guard the opponents' strong threats there if needed in specific circumstances. While I can see Achiuwa/Reed switching there usefully on occasion, I don't see them drawing key assignments there like I'm hopeful Woodward can.
 
idiot said:
I'll withhold judgment on Woodward's offensive potential as a wing, as I can't find any more Mississippi State games on youtube. But I do suspect that if the Jazz take him, it's with the idea of filling the 4-spot offensively and much of the time defensively (even if he gets labeled as a SF). I'm leery of expecting a 5 out of him, however, except in unusual circumstances. Size (including height) matters there. Might as well go with Juwan Morgan for the 4/5 role (or Achiuwa/Reed). What makes Woodward attractive to me is that he can go down to the 2 or 3 spot to guard the opponents' strong threats there if needed in specific circumstances. While I can see Achiuwa/Reed switching there usefully on occasion, I don't see them drawing key assignments there like I'm hopeful Woodward can.
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To be clear, I'm not itching to cobble him as a regular 5, just situational or in a switch. I think his biggest selling point is his defensive versatility, but I think he should essentially be a 4 in the modern NBA (which is the new "swingman").
 
For those trying to figure out who's best or who you like out of Tyler Bey, Robert Woodard, and Paul Reed, I found these useful:

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Tyler Bey College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Tyler Bey - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more
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Robert Woodard College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Robert Woodard - Stats, Game Logs, Splits, and much more
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Paul Reed College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

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They create some distance between Bey and the others, IMO.
 
NUMBERICA said:
To be clear, I'm not itching to cobble him as a regular 5, just situational or in a switch. I think his biggest selling point is his defensive versatility, but I think he should essentially be a 4 in the modern NBA (which is the new "swingman").
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and about how many games of basketball have you seen robert woodard play? cuz forgive me if im wrong but i'd bet the answer is little to none.... cuz just thats how u make it sound...


Can you recall a single instance of him guarding an NBA 5 type of player? or is it all just some dream of yours thats being projected?



Cuz like with Abdul Ado and Reggie Perry there I dont think he'd really have had much of an opportunity to showcase what your talking about here.
 
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Lord Bullingdon said:
and about how many games of basketball have you seen robert woodard play? cuz forgive me if im wrong but i'd bet the answer is little to none.... cuz just thats how u make it sound...


Can you recall a single instance of him guarding an NBA 5 type of player? or is it all just some dream of yours thats being projected?



Cuz like with Abdul Ado and Reggie Perry there I dont think he'd really have had much of an opportunity to showcase what your talking about here.
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I say it based on that the center position is the least-skilled on the floor and players that have never played it are starting to play it in the NBA, nominally speaking. Woodard has a physical profile that compares favorably to Draymond Green (virtually identical height and length, would venture they have similar levels of strength, almost certainly more explosive/athletic) who has done his greatest damage as a center.

When teams can field a lineup that eschews a traditional center in favor of more skill, mobility, and spacing without getting pummeled inside, it bodes well for them. It's become something of standard practice in playoff basketball. And we have jack ****ing none of that but should get to figuring it out.
 
Catchall said:
Theo Maledon could still be in play for the Jazz. He can play next to Mitchell, both on and off the ball. Maledon might be French for George Hill. The only real problem with Maledon is that his steal rate is low.
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I've seen Maledon in a couple mocks to the Jazz, but seems like Tony has been shutting down any floor general types
 
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