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Rudy Gobert 5 years, $205M

There is so much we don't know.

What we do know - Rudy did something in that locker room bad enough that nobody wants to bring it to the surface. Nobody came to Rudy's defense on his actions in the locker room. So whether Don got it hours before Rudy or not is irrelevant. Rudy was the first confirmed COVID case and his actions towards Don and maybe even others were unacceptable.

We are months away from this and it still baffles me that people bash Don for having a very human reaction to a very unprecedented situation.
Original reaction there wasn’t anything wrong with, but dragging it on for months and allowing so much of the rumors and Rudy hate to fester nationally is what people didn’t like. Anyway stop fighting everyone.
 
I think it was justified because there was a lot of speculation that Rudy wanted to leave.
I was pretty consistent. I wanted Rudy to stay but at a good number and 4 years.

I think this number is too much and too long, but this is not the time to be upset. We re-signed him so let's stay positive and go win big games.

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Damn. That's a lot of loot. I thought around 33M-35M per season would be a giving contract. Over 40M per season... that's pretty much half a million per regular season game for Rudy. Boggles my mind.
 
Damn. That's a lot of loot. I thought around 33M-35M per season would be a giving contract. Over 40M per season... that's pretty much half a million per regular season game for Rudy. Boggles my mind.
It is and I think those saying it’s an overpay can be right but also those of us saying it doesn’t matter can also be right.

The fact of the matter is teams do this all the time and the backend of the deal can be bad. It likely won’t matter because of where we are in the team building cycle. In an ideal world you could lock him up for 4/145... the most he can get elsewhere... but these things are emotional. I remember the time we sent a guy out on the market cuz we thought we could save a few million and it but us on the ***. It’s like beachfront property with all stars... someone will overpay if you won’t. If the market has a huge drop that property could go way under water but in semi normal conditions it should be a sound long term deal. If Rudy stays healthy it works long term and the premium is fine. To assume injuries would be overly pessimistic imo... have to assume a semi normal operating environment.

So we could save a few million a year or cut a year from the deal and risk upsetting our number 1 and number 2 employees... or ya pay em and figure it out later and have your most important guys fully bought in. I think it’s the right choice and I’m glad we could reward a loyal guy who bought in here and grew up here. I hope he wins a title... but if not I think his 10-12 years here is a pretty great legacy either way and we can both say we did right by each other.
 
It’s a waste of my time to even read his posts when I know the premise of what he’s going to say, and it’s ridiculous and outlandish

What perspective is there to be gained by listening to oneye call DM a bitch and slandering Mitchell at every turn. All he’s doing is baiting people. It’s not worth my time reading. I’d rather he just disappear all together, and the best way to do that is put on ignore and my hope is if enough people do the same, he will in fact disappear.
Heh how can you be so hurtful @Thee Idiotic Minivan K
 
If multiple teams were planning to offer Rudy a max deal in free agency, then the 5-year max deal with incentives that the Jazz just gave Rudy is his fair market value. We can debate whether the Jazz should want to retain Rudy at fair market value, but that's what the market dictates if they want to keep him.
 
But DID Rudy do something? Any links to suggested locker room actions by Rudy?

Or did Donovan jump to the conclusion that Rudy was at fault for his getting the virus when it possibly could have been him that gave Rudy the virus? Maybe Don tried to make Rudy the scapegoat to protect his image. Or maybe Rudy was cavalier and Don had a legitimate beef. Hard to say.

We may never find out what happened but my gut tells me to side with Rudy.
I will say I saw reports, not sure how true or not they were, state that he was making light of the virus and making fun of how serious the virus was by purposely breathing on and touching teammates and such. Again I don’t know how true these reports are.
 
There is so much we don't know.

What we do know - Rudy did something in that locker room bad enough that nobody wants to bring it to the surface. Nobody came to Rudy's defense on his actions in the locker room. So whether Don got it hours before Rudy or not is irrelevant. Rudy was the first confirmed COVID case and his actions towards Don and maybe even others were unacceptable.

We are months away from this and it still baffles me that people bash Don for having a very human reaction to a very unprecedented situation.
Rudy was so careless and mocked everyone in the locker room that only other guy who got the virus was Mitchell who has been touring highschools in New York.

They both gave a very human reaction at first. There is nothing wrong with being afraid and letting it affect you emotionally but no reason to drag it after the guy owns it up.

Heck, Fave just said that he wouldn't get a vaccine but there is virtually no talk about him.

Or about MPJ who is antivax. Harden or Lou Williams who were in clubs.
 
@oneye it is legitimately sad reading your posts. Your spiral down this path would have been far more fascinating were there not so much pity baked in. If your 2018 self who just watched rookie Mitchell lead us to a playoff victory could see you now, he would be disgusted. In all seriousness you really need to evaluate your perspective with how you interact with sports and fandom, it is not healthy. Depending upon how much of this is just trolling, I might also suggest some therapy. This vitriol for an athlete who plays for your team, and who you have never even met is truly startling, and he was your favorite player ever like 10 months ago!

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@oneye it is legitimately sad reading your posts. Your spiral down this path would have been far more fascinating were there not so much pity baked in. If your 2018 self who just watched rookie Mitchell lead us to a playoff victory could see you now, he would be disgusted. In all seriousness you really need to evaluate your perspective with how you interact with sports and fandom, it is not healthy. Depending upon how much of this is just trolling, I might also suggest some therapy. This vitriol for an athlete who plays for your team, and who you have never even met is truly startling, and he was your favorite player ever like 10 months ago!

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Opinions of people change when they act like an ungrateful, entitled, arrogant, crybaby for 10 months and throw their most important teammate to the side first, then lump the fans who had nothing but full support of him for 3 years as racists he wants to distance himself from over social media comments. He could only hide his true self until things got a little tough for him. Also, I believe this is a “Jazz fan forum” what would you like me to discuss here? Did he not throw a fit over Rudy and let it fester with national headlines for months while never saying a word? Has he not completely tossed aside this fanbase and community over social media comments? Where’s he been for 10 months aside from those things? Nothing I’ve said here isn’t true. When he’s acted like an entitled, ungrateful child for 10 months it’s okay to say it. The team that drafted him and the fanbase that unwaveringly supported him and helped make him signs him to a giant gold plated contract and he can’t even act grateful about it?
 
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