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str8line said:
But DID Rudy do something? Any links to suggested locker room actions by Rudy?

Or did Donovan jump to the conclusion that Rudy was at fault for his getting the virus when it possibly could have been him that gave Rudy the virus? Maybe Don tried to make Rudy the scapegoat to protect his image. Or maybe Rudy was cavalier and Don had a legitimate beef. Hard to say.

We may never find out what happened but my gut tells me to side with Rudy.
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What??? Behavior about virus was divisive.....in 2020....in politics.....at church.....while shopping.......while just living.....
Welcome to 2020, everyone can name someone was joking around or was louding criticizing the policies...or the opposite -- someone who is a germaphobe and was preaching to everyone. We just happen to see that microcosm of society on our team!!!!

Gobert was wrong, but he did reflect the behavior of the majority of people in what he did. I bet 75% of the posters on Jazzfanz would have cracked a joke about the virus...geez. Forgive, and let people improve and move one.
 
Also, there was that report that Rudy intentionally went around touching personal items of people in mockery towards the concerns about the virus. That was one of the things for which he apologized. I'm not sure though if that was before or after he was diagnosed with COVID.
 
whatthe said:
What??? Behavior about virus was divisive.....in 2020....in politics.....at church.....while shopping.......while just living.....
Welcome to 2020, everyone can name someone was joking around or was louding criticizing the policies...or the opposite -- someone who is a germaphobe and was preaching to everyone. We just happen to see that microcosm of society on our team!!!!

Gobert was wrong, but he did reflect the behavior of the majority of people in what he did. I bet 75% of the posters on Jazzfanz would have cracked a joke about the virus...geez. Forgive, and let people improve and move one.
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I think this is all coming back to the Rudy vs Don narrative. There's no reason to pick a side, but everybody seems to be doing it. Rudy did what he did and he apologized. Don had a normal, human reaction to Rudy's actions. They are over it now so why do people have to attack one side or the other? Especially, why attack Donovan? He didn't do anything wrong.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Also, there was that report that Rudy intentionally went around touching personal items of people in mockery towards the concerns about the virus. That was one of the things for which he apologized. I'm not sure though if that was before or after he was diagnosed with COVID.
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Yep. This is what Woj said right after he interview numerous teammates:

Wojnarowski said. “The Jazz are fortunate that they don’t have to get back together and start playing games again right now. There’s a lot of work to do to repair relationships not just between Donovan Mitchell and Rudy Gobert, but others in the locker room. There’s a lot of frustration with Gobert. He certainly was apologetic today. They got great leadership in Utah. In that locker room, it’s going to be a test to get this team back on track.”

It was never Rudy vs Don. It was Rudy using poor judgment then the eventual forgiveness by everyone.

We are good now. Nobody should be beat up about it anymore and we should all move on.
 
LoPo said:
There is so much we don't know.

What we do know - Rudy did something in that locker room bad enough that nobody wants to bring it to the surface. Nobody came to Rudy's defense on his actions in the locker room. So whether Don got it hours before Rudy or not is irrelevant. Rudy was the first confirmed COVID case and his actions towards Don and maybe even others were unacceptable.

We are months away from this and it still baffles me that people bash Don for having a very human reaction to a very unprecedented situation.
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I agree that DM reaction was justified but I think the tension between the two was media and fan driven drama that was way overblown. DM congratulated Rudy on his deal and even call out his professional when going through negotiation. I think the two have moved on and so should Jazz nation.
 
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stitches said:
Like others here have pointed out - it's an overpay and we might suffer through it at the back end of that contract, but the alternative was probably worse.

Now we have our 2 stars locked in for the next 4-5 years... Lets see what DLZ can do on the margins to help them be more competitive.

On a side note - dow drafting Udoka hurts even more. Wasted pick who will rot in the G-League for the next 3 years unless we sustain injuries.
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I do not see how it is an over pay when he did not get the supermax which is what he was qualified to receive. Personally NBA superstars are overpaid and even scrubs are when you think about it. However, the system is in place to do so. I don't think just Rudy's contract but many of these supermax guy's franchises will regret signing their guys. 40 to 50 million for one guy. You think Paul George is worth his new contract. Come on. Basketball is a team sport. As a union guy, I think the union has screwed over the majority of the players with the last CBA. People complaining about the money given to Rudy would have screamed bloody murder if Rudy had walked away or signed with some other team because the Jazz didn't want to pony up. The Jazz had little choice so they settled for the middle road extension.
 
LoPo said:
Haha. I guess you don't know me at all. Turns out one of your simple joys is miscalculated.

I'm not upset that Rudy signed this deal. It doesn't upset me at all. It is what it is.

I'm happy to have him back. I'm optimistic about the next couple seasons. I'm wrong a lot and I hope I'm wrong about how devastating his contract will be in a few years. But we will cross that bridge when we get there. My guess is that Rudy's contract will upset a majority of this thread, and maybe even you, by the end of it. We can wait and see.

Go Jazz
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You spend 1/4th of your post making Gobert trade ideas. You aren't fooling anyone dude.
 
cowhide said:
I agree that DM reaction was justified but I think the tension between the two was media and fan drive drama that was way overblown. DM congratulated Rudy on his deal and even call out his professional when going through negotiation. I think the two have moved on and so should Jazz nation.
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I liked how Don said Rudy was a true pro and never showed any emotions regarding his contract or let it affect the team.
 
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Me showing up to Jazzfanz to see Lopo when Gobert signs a 5 year max.
 
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