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The Bengals definitely won. With multiple first rounders the next couple years, they can really stockpile talent and build around the red-headed rifle.

It's one first rounder isn't it? Don't the Raiders have to make the playoffs for it to be two or did I hear wrong?
 
I also think it's worth noting that had the Raiders tried to do this before the injury, the Bengals probably wouldn't have asked for the moon to begin with. The Raiders had to be smarter and more patient than this.
 
One 1st rounder and 1 2nd rounder (If the Raiders WIN a playoff game then its 2 1st rounders).

I am not saying who won. Right now for me.. yes the Bungles won but if Palmer does well then you can say its a good deal from both sides.

As a Steelers fan I yelled at my buddies who are Raiders fans when I heard this but then I remembered its the Bungles we are talking about.
List of their 1st/2nd rounders
2011 - AJ Green/Dalton
2010 - Gresham/Dunlap
2009 - A. Smith/Maualuga
2008 - K. Rivers/J. Simpson
2007 - L. Hall/K. Irons
2006 - Joseph/Whitworth
2005 - Pollack/Thurman
2004 - C. Perry/K.Ratliff
2003 - Palmer/Steinbach
2002 - L. Jones/L. Thompson
2001 - Smith/Ochocinco
2000 - OchocincoWarrick/Roman
1999 - A. Smith/Fisher

With that being said they either draft horrible or they develop their talent horrible. I think I vote for both. Maybe they have turned the corner with the past few drafts but we will see.
 
Palmer has more than one year. You act like a 31 year old QB's career is over. Why not give him some time to see what he can accomplish with the Raiders?

And they'll now develop how? Via free agency? From within? There current core is flawed and yet they won't be able to plug in the holes via the draft because the cupboard is pretty much bare.
 
And they'll now develop how? Via free agency? From within? There current core is flawed and yet they won't be able to plug in the holes via the draft because the cupboard is pretty much bare.

So draft picks out side of the first two rounds and non-drafted players can't make a difference?
 
So draft picks out side of the first two rounds and non-drafted players can't make a difference?

In 2012, they now don't have their 1st round pick (Palmer), 2nd round pick (a Pats trade), 3rd round pick (Terrelle Pryor), 4th round pick (Campbell), or 7th round pick (Curry). So yeah, I'm sure they're really likely to hit the jackpot with their 5th and 6th rounders. Know what the **** you're talking about before you post.
 
****ing Eagle fans.

Draft picks outside of rounds 1 and 2 = 5th and 6th rounders and non-draftees.

Know common sense, guy.

Palmer > Campbell > common sense > SalmonHomo
 
And they'll now develop how? Via free agency? From within? There current core is flawed and yet they won't be able to plug in the holes via the draft because the cupboard is pretty much bare.

THEIR.....

As far as their 'core' they have a very good core actually.

Palmer is 31.. only a few players 'older' than him including their P, K, Seymore.

They have a YOUNG team.. throw in a Vet QB and they may flourish.
 
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