Game Thread Feb 19, 2021 8:00PM MT: Jazz at Clippers

[Handlogten's Heros]

Jebus the Royce Haters are back. Please tell me how he could have been better. He was solid. The second offensive rebound sucked on that play but Kawhi might be the strongest wing in the ****ing league. Leonard made tough shots and had to work. One more body to throw out there would be great. We might have the guy on the roster already but Quin ain’t ever gonna bench Niang.

 

[LogGrad98]

Royce did his best. but he's only 6'4 and the jazz needs a legit forward who can secure those defensive boards behind rudy when he left the paint.

No we need to crash the boards, as a team, and we just didn't do that.

 

[jom2003]

Jazz need to bring in someone better in O'neal's spot. I like him but trading him, Niang, Azubuike and maybe picks for someone better is in order.

that mcdaniels kid is showing some legit 3D/rim protecting potential in minny. wonder what it would take to get him

 

[LogGrad98]

Jebus the Royce Haters are back. Please tell me how he could have been better. He was solid. The second offensive rebound sucked on that play but Kawhi might be the strongest wing in the ****ing league. Leonard made tough shots and had to work. One more body to throw out there would be great. We might have the guy on the roster already but Quin ain’t ever gonna bench Niang.

Duh, he needs to be 4 inches taller. Damn QS not getting his players to be taller! ************.

 

[jom2003]

No we need to crash the boards, as a team, and we just didn't do that.

because we as a team are simply outmuscled and out-hustled by a team more physical and bigger than us. me as a 5'8/160lb can jump as high as i possibly can against a guy 6ft/200lb and guess who's gonna end up with the rebound? that's how i feel about guys like Royce/bojan/ingles trying to get us a rebound when rudy isn't there.

 

[fishonjazz]

Jebus the Royce Haters are back. Please tell me how he could have been better. He was solid. The second offensive rebound sucked on that play but Kawhi might be the strongest wing in the ****ing league. Leonard made tough shots and had to work. One more body to throw out there would be great. We might have the guy on the roster already but Quin ain’t ever gonna bench Niang.

Zero points isn't a good amount. So to answer your question of how he could have been better..... Score 1 point
And fwiw I did say I like Royce. There is a lot to like about his game. But zero points in 37 minutes is the definitely the part of Royce "buckets" oneals game that I like the least.
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[infection]

Is trevor ariza’s corpse still around? What about James Posey? Cuz a guy like that would be perfect right now

I believe he’s with OKC (sitting out). Should likely get bought out (nobody’s trading for him). Here was my take on it a couple days ago:

But one guy I’d also consider a revisit on is Ariza. I wouldn’t say I’m ready to buy, but I’m curious. You could say I’m buy-curious. I know the consensus is that the dude is washed, and I know you were more familiar with him being unmotivated in Sacramento. But he seemed to be okay in Portland. I remember TJ would always be cryptic about another “wing” the Jazz were going to sign if they got Mirotic, and nobody really fit the bill. Perhaps him, I don’t know. But I think playing unmotivated in Sacramento and not playing in OKC is probably a huge red flag for the FO in terms of who they bring in to the organization. But based purely off skill, I think him being washed isn’t as big of a deal. The guys we’d be picking up someone like him for would be the bigger perimeter guys where we need some length, and could perhaps sacrifice some lateral quickness in the event that he’s lost some. Think the Joe Ingles approach. Ingles can be a smart defender, despite physical limitations, and if Ariza can just play a few minutes of smart defense on the likes of Kawhi, PG, LeBron, etc.

 

[LogGrad98]

because we as a team are simply outmuscled and out-hustled by a team more physical and bigger than us. me as a 5'8/160lb can jump as high as i possibly can against a guy 6ft/200lb and guess who's gonna end up with the rebound? that's how i feel about guys like Royce/bojan/ingles trying to get us a rebound when rudy isn't there.

Oversimplifying it. Rodman was not the best rebounder because he was the tallest guy. How did Westbrook at 6'4", maybe, average nearly 10 per? Rebounding is 90% hustle. It's a mindset. Perform the basics and outwork the other guy. How do you think Royce increased his rebounding this year to career numbers for him? All while he is almost always going to against guys taller than him. We have been out-rebounding almost everyone almost every game and it isn't just Gobert. It's a team effort spearheaded by individual hustle.

We didn't show that hustle tonight, we didn't crash the boards, so we didn't get the boards when we needed to.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Duh, he needs to be 4 inches taller. Damn QS not getting his players to be taller! ************.

I gots news for y’all... he could be taller and Kawhi will still get his fade away off.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Zero points isn't a good amount. So to answer your question of how he could have been better..... Score 1 point
And fwiw I did say I like Royce. There is a lot to like about his game. But zero points in 37 minutes is the definitely the part of Royce "buckets" oneals game that I like the least.
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Sure but he’s dependent on other guys setting him up... just like Rudy. We have enough creators... he will have nights like this on offense but it just means his guy wasn’t leaving him to rotate. We didn’t move the ball tonight... when we don’t move the ball he won’t get shots.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Y'all, the Clippers are a GREAT team when they are at full strength and focused. Jazz could've played better, but I'm proud of the Jazz and y'all can suck it.

Jazz couldn't hit ****, the Clippers have hellacious defensive talent, and the Jazz had a game to the last second. A couple of frustrating given up offensive rebounds and the Jazz maybe win this. On the road. Against the biggest threat to knock-off the Lakers.

Like, let's have a little perspective about how much the Jazz have been fighting above their weight, and they also haven't had anything resembling crunch time in a minute. They'll be better for this.

That being said, there's a reason there's been a consensus about bringing in a bigger perimeter defender. Cuz we need it. I don't think there's a move the Jazz can make except on the buyout market, so hopefully something shakes loose.

 

[jom2003]

Oversimplifying it. Rodman was not the best rebounder because he was the tallest guy. How did Westbrook at 6'4", maybe, average nearly 10 per? Rebounding is 90% hustle. It's a mindset. Perform the basics and outwork the other guy. How do you think Royce increased his rebounding this year to career numbers for him? All while he is almost always going to against guys taller than him. We have been out-rebounding almost everyone almost every game and it isn't just Gobert. It's a team effort spearheaded by individual hustle.

We didn't show that hustle tonight, we didn't crash the boards, so we didn't get the boards when we needed to.

See, Rodman is an underrated leaper with giant hands, which allow him to hustle with guys bigger than him. that's why he's a hall of famer because noone can do what he does. so is Barkley. Their body strength, quickness, hands, leaping more than made up for their lack of size.

simply because those all time greats/hall of famers pulled it off, don't just automatically assume that guys like niang, bojan, royce can do it too.

hustle is not just a mental thing, it also requires enormous amount of physicality.