Elijah Millsap: Lindsey in exit interview: “if u say one more word, I’ll cut your Black *** and send you back to Louisiana”.

[One Brow]

Almost no one isn't no one. Any lives destroyed by an accusation alone is too much. Or are you espousing straight utilitarianism in these scenarios? it is fine to hurt or even destroy a few as long as it is better for more people in the long run? Or are you better than that?

Straight utilitarianism? No, but we need to consider likelihoods. Besides, I already offered what could be an easy path forward for Lindsey where he keeps his job, if he really wants it.

Still, that you even bring in "straight utilitarianism" means acknowledging that there is a differential in harms here.

To be fair, I might have gone at this a little hard, but it is because I have a couple of close friends who were directly impact by cancel culture. I will not discuss their situation because I told them I would not, but I will say they were both teachers, emphasis on "were". So when it is a real thing to a real person you know some of the ability to stand back and just try to brush it aside as if it isn't a thing goes out the window.

I don't know anything about their individual situations. I do know that other teachers have done things like changing school districts, when the level of national attention was low, but it may not be possible for your friends.

I made no claims about the accusation itself. Anything along those lines are words put in my mouth, and you did that here as well, put words in my mouth. I was purely speaking out about cancel culture and the need people feel to immediately take any accusation at face value and be judge, jury, and executioner regardless of what the actual facts might be.

Too often, I see "cancel culture" used as an attempt to distract from real issues, to complain about the complainers. I appreciate that might not be your intention.

 

[One Brow]

But the implication, I'm assuming, is that you're concluding, among many hypotheticals, that the latter is entirely off the table, thus only one response (generally speaking) is appropriate.

If he's lying, Millsap (who still has an NBA-related business) is basically killing any possible future within the NBA. That considerably reduces the chances of "the latter".

 

[RandyForRubio]

What sort of potential positive attention or clout comes to Millsap from this?

I agree we don't have the actual facts, and are not likely to get them. That doesn't make all possibilities equally likely.

Well, we’re all talking about him for the first time in years. There are people that want a high ranking individual on an NBA team fired because of his accusation. That’s both positive attention and power.

Again, not saying that’s what is happening, just possible reasons. At the end of the day, I have no idea why someone would lie. I can’t relate to that. But, we’ve seen it happen recently. We saw an actor orchestrate a “hate crime” for attention. That doesn’t mean it always happens, but it also shows us why we can’t dismiss the possibility.

Just as it seems odd that Millsap would lie, it seems odd that Lindsey would do this once over a multiple decade NBA career and no other players have come forward (yet) to say something similar happened to them. It seems odd that Millsap wouldn’t even tell his teammates/friends on the team this happened. There’s a lot that seems odd, so to me, it seems that waiting for more information before coming to a conclusion seems the best course.

 

[One Brow]

The is the way things SHOULD work, but that is not the world we live in today. You think Milsap is going to let this rest? He chose this outlet an manner purposely. If he was interested in a learning experience, he could have contacted Lindsey directly at any point in the last 6 years.

A person who feels demeaned does not owe the demean-er a private consultation, and it's interesting that you think what Millsap wants should inversely affect what Lindsey does.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

No, making comments like that unwarranted insult is what makes you a keyboard warrior, YOU are the one who drew the connection to racism because it is the only way you can justify your behavior. You are all tough and childish behind your keyboard, instead of engaging people on an intellectual level with the strength of argument. But thanks for making assumptions and confirming exactly what I said. Proof is in the (reported) pudding there.

Another thing is that you take the stance of "agree with me or you are the worst kind of racist in the world who just wants to bring back slavery" or they are stupid or morons, or fat, or slobs, or whatever insult you need to sling to make yourself feel superior and put down the other person so you don't have to actually address what is being said. Textbook ad hominem, you are the master of that. And that is a sad tired schtick. But I have learned to not expect any more from you. You are incapable of actual discussion, or any level of nuance within a discussion. Your way or the highway. Pathetic really.

This is hilarious considering I'm the person who has wrote out the most clear and critical arguments here regarding this, and most other topics.

 

[Hax0rs]

Stfu. If he wanted to dramatize it he could have said DL said a slur. 0% reason to think Elijah is lying. The Millsaps are well respected

Your boy Jussie Smollett wants a word with you.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Your boy Jussie Smollett wants a word with you.

lmfao. Yeah, I never defended him. Go find the receipts.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Well, we’re all talking about him for the first time in years. There are people that want a high ranking individual on an NBA team fired because of his accusation. That’s both positive attention and power.

Again, not saying that’s what is happening, just possible reasons. At the end of the day, I have no idea why someone would lie. I can’t relate to that. But, we’ve seen it happen recently. We saw an actor orchestrate a “hate crime” for attention. That doesn’t mean it always happens, but it also shows us why we can’t dismiss the possibility.

Just as it seems odd that Millsap would lie, it seems odd that Lindsey would do this once over a multiple decade NBA career and no other players have come forward (yet) to say something similar happened to them. It seems odd that Millsap wouldn’t even tell his teammates/friends on the team this happened. There’s a lot that seems odd, so to me, it seems that waiting for more information before coming to a conclusion seems the best course.

Danny Ferry would have never been caught if it didnt get recorded. It's not a logical argument "If he hasnt been caught by now, then is it really him?"

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Story coming soon

 

[infection]

If he's lying, Millsap (who still has an NBA-related business) is basically killing any possible future within the NBA. That considerably reduces the chances of "the latter".

There's still plenty of ground where it could have not happened or could have not happened in any degree to be construed that way, without Millsap lying. I'm not saying that's the case, but I think we're getting too all-or-nothing here where whether it happened like this or not hinges on Millsap being a liar or not, and I just don't see that as necessarily being the case.

Then again, my view on motivation and the definition of lying may be drastically different than many other people because I work in a profession I'm almost never getting the truth, but would be hesitant to label a lot of that as 'lying.'

 

[NAOS]

Is there anything more predictable than this thread dragging RandyForRubio and Beer out of their slumbers?

 

[mongoose01]

Story coming soon

If all he wants is to “shine a light” why even name names?


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