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Utes 2011 Football Discussion

As a huge Ute fan, the bottom line is this, the Utes suck ***. Big time. They are a bottom feeder in the PAC 12 this year and have a horrible offense.

The Utes have a horrible offense, no doubt. But they are definitely not bottom feeders. Oregon State, Washington State, Colorado, those are bottom feeders. The Utes will easily beat all of them in the coming weeks.
 
The Utes have a horrible offense, no doubt. But they are definitely not bottom feeders. Oregon State, Washington State, Colorado, those are bottom feeders. The Utes will easily beat all of them in the coming weeks.

How can you call a team, who up to this point, hasn't won a game in the conference anything but a bottom feeder?
 
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1984!!! LOL!

I'm not big on all the OOC games, just the Pitt game. They're a BCS team that will finish with a winning record, and Utah beat them on the road.

The other OOC games were against scrub teams. Yeah, both will finish with a winning record. But neither is any good.

Who gave Salty the Uncle Rico joke/reference??? Do you realize this is going to be repeated constantly until he dies?
 
No need to insult, I'll just tell you you're wrong.

It's already been pointed out that Utah has been turning the ball over like they were BYU in a big game. With that said, even with all those turnovers giving the opposing teams easy points, Utah is 35th in the nation in points allowed.

That absolutely is a top notch defense.

Absolutely top notch? God your homerism is nauseating. 35th out of 120 teams is hardly top notch. Great, it ranks in the top 30% of defenses when it comes to points against. That's like saying finishing 35th in the nation in the final polls is a top notch season. Solid, yes. Good? Perhaps. Top notch? Hardly.
 
How can you call a team, who up to this point, hasn't won a game in the conference anything but a bottom feeder?
Well the Utes have played all the good teams (at least the good teams on the schedule). We'll see if they are a bottom feeder now that they will be playing the bottom feeders. My guess is the Utes will beat them all.
 
Absolutely top notch? God your homerism is nauseating. 35th out of 120 teams is hardly top notch. Great, it ranks in the top 30% of defenses when it comes to points against. That's like saying finishing 35th in the nation in the final polls is a top notch season. Solid, yes. Good? Perhaps. Top notch? Hardly.
Have you watched a Utes game yet this year? Probably not, but let me basically repeat what jazzman12 said a few posts ago:
The Utes have 14 turnovers in their last 3 conference games. Many of those resulted in points scored either on the return or shortly after.

For the Utes defense to even be #35 in the nation after the offense handed the other team 14 turnovers in the last 3 conference games is pretty dang good. I don't know where to look for this stat or if it is even kept, but I would bet that Utah is near the best in the nation in fewest points allowed per snap. Because even when they haven't turned it over, it's pretty much been 3 and out with very few drives. The defense spends way too much time on the field.
 
Have you watched a Utes game yet this year? Probably not, but let me basically repeat what jazzman12 said a few posts ago:
The Utes have 14 turnovers in their last 3 conference games. Many of those resulted in points scored either on the return or shortly after.

For the Utes defense to even be #35 in the nation after the offense handed the other team 14 turnovers in the last 3 conference games is pretty dang good. I don't know where to look for this stat or if it is even kept, but I would bet that Utah is near the best in the nation in fewest points allowed per snap. Because even when they haven't turned it over, it's pretty much been 3 and out with very few drives. The defense spends way too much time on the field.

Yeah, top notch.
 
I'll be a man about this (you should try it some time salty; it's cathartic) and say that their defense is better than I'm giving it credit for. Utah ranks 18th nationally in opponent's yards per play at 4.7. Alabama is 1st at 3.1.
 
I'll be a man about this (you should try it some time salty; it's cathartic) and say that their defense is better than I'm giving it credit for. Utah ranks 18th nationally in opponent's yards per play at 4.7. Alabama is 1st at 3.1.
Nice job on the stat. Where did you find that? I looked for some defensive stats but all I could find was the points allowed ranking on ESPN's Ute clubhouse page.

Even that stat is a bit deceptive though, because there is no telling how Alabama would rank defensively if their offense was as bad as Utah's, or how good Utah's defense would rank if their offense was as good as Alabama's.

Not trying to toot the Utes horn here, but their offense has to have been among the worst in the nation ever since Wynn got hurt. They were pretty bad before he got hurt, but nowhere close to as bad as they've been since.

How many yards per play does their offense average and where does that rank (especially compared to the teams ranked ahead of them defensively)?
 
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