Favors and Burks are the future of the Utah Jazz

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ah ok, but i agree with the other guy, if he creates more consistency in his shooting, he can be a stud in SG because first of all he has a physical advantage. But as a SF he is a little weak against stronger guys, especially in the defensive end it would bring him a lot of advantage as a SG.

Burks has more advantage at SG than Hayward. Hayward is the most capable player at SF other than AK, and AK may not be on the team next year.

 

[NotDeadYet]

If Burks really can develop into an NBA-quality PG, our backcourt of Burks/Hayward would be a tough matchup for anyone!

 

[Deleted member 848]

Ah ok, but i agree with the other guy, if he creates more consistency in his shooting, he can be a stud in SG because first of all he has a physical advantage. But as a SF he is a little weak against stronger guys, especially in the defensive end it would bring him a lot of advantage as a SG.

Remember, just because you play the 3, doesnt mean you have to defend the opposing teams SF as well. If we resign Kirilenko we can throw him at the 4 to defend the Lebrons, and the Durants, etc.

To me, one of the most exciting things about Burks is the fact that his only flaw is the lack of a reliable long distance shot. How did Burks 3 point percentage compare with Haywards in his last year at Butler? Because to my knowledge it was in the high twenties; now hes the best shooting Rookie in the NBA from 3 point land. I feel like long-range shooting is one of the most easily correctible flaws as an NBA player, especially if your mid-range game is very solid (which is true for Burks). I seriously think we got an unbelievably awesome pick at #12.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If Burks really can develop into an NBA-quality PG, our backcourt of Burks/Hayward would be a tough matchup for anyone!

I don't think that is what the Jazz plan to do with him. Offensively it may be possible, but defensively it would be a disaster against lighting quick PG that make up the league now.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Remember, just because you play the 3, doesnt mean you have to defend the opposing teams SF as well. If we resign Kirilenko we can throw him at the 4 to defend the Lebrons, and the Durants, etc.

To me, one of the most exciting things about Burks is the fact that his only flaw is the lack of a reliable long distance shot. How did Burks 3 point percentage compare with Haywards in his last year at Butler? Because to my knowledge it was in the high twenties; now hes the best shooting Rookie in the NBA from 3 point land. I feel like long-range shooting is one of the most easily correctible flaws as an NBA player, especially if your mid-range game is very solid (which is true for Burks). I seriously think we got an unbelievably awesome pick at #12.

I didn't watch Burks at all, but I would assume a high % of his 3pt attempts were off the dribble. I doubt he will be taking nearly as many like that in Utah, so hopefully his % will go up from being put in better catch and shoot situations.

 

[NotDeadYet]

And I would not bet against Millsap being able to re-invent himself as a SF. He's already come a long ways since being little more than a very good but under-sized rebounder in college... At 6'8", I just can't see him as a starter at PF due to his defensive liability. With all the bigger guys we've accumulated, the handwriting looks like it's on the wall. Just a matter of time before these guys develop...

 

[Deleted member 848]

And I would not bet against Millsap being able to re-invent himself as a SF. He's already come a long ways since being little more than a very good but under-sized rebounder in college... At 6'8", I just can't see him as a starter at PF due to his defensive liability. With all the bigger guys we've accumulated, the handwriting looks like it's on the wall. Just a matter of time before these guys develop...

It all depends who hes coupled with, honestly. Ben Wallace is MUCH at scoring than Millsap is at defending, yet the frontcourt of Detroit did perfectly fine with scoring for all of those years. A duo like Millsap and Bogut to me is more than a functional starting 4/5 tandem. Millsap ABSOLUTELY has what it takes to start at the 4 in the NBA, hes just probably not ever going to be a superstar at that position because of his limitations. The call for him to move to 3 is because we think that Favors's ceiling as a Power Forward is higher than Millsaps, and we want to keep both. Only way this can play out is if Millsap plays on the bench, or if he starts playing the 3.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It all depends who hes coupled with, honestly. Ben Wallace is MUCH at scoring than Millsap is at defending, yet the frontcourt of Detroit did perfectly fine with scoring for all of those years. A duo like Millsap and Bogut to me is more than a functional starting 4/5 tandem. Millsap ABSOLUTELY has what it takes to start at the 4 in the NBA, hes just probably not ever going to be a superstar at that position because of his limitations. The call for him to move to 3 is because we think that Favors's ceiling as a Power Forward is higher than Millsaps, and we want to keep both. Only way this can play out is if Millsap plays on the bench, or if he starts playing the 3.

Huge hyperbole. Millsap can guard some players at least. Ben Wallace can barely score against his own shadow.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Also, Millsap can't be a starting 4. Not because of his size, but because of lack of endurance for an 82 game season, or at least lack of ability to pace himself for an 82 game season.

 

[GVC]

Also, Millsap can't be a starting 4. Not because of his size, but because of lack of endurance for an 82 game season, or at least lack of ability to pace himself for an 82 game season.

Based on what? After his amazing first 7 games, he was extremely consistent throughout last season. Seriously, go look at his month-by-month splits. February-March was his best 2 month stretch.

 

[sepanol]

Burks has more advantage at SG than Hayward. Hayward is the most capable player at SF other than AK, and AK may not be on the team next year.

So that shows the lackness of SF in our team, not that Hayward plays best at SF. Burks is already a SG, he cant play SF, when he is on court, we can play Hayward as SF depending on his matchup, but i insist, he would perform much better as a SG than SF. Why not play someone in a position he has obvious physical advantage? And it is not like Millsap playing SF instead of PF, he has many disadvantages there but Hayward doesn't have any disadvantage or any ability he lacks that a SG should have.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Huge hyperbole. Millsap can guard some players at least. Ben Wallace can barely score against his own shadow.

I meant to type MUCH worse*** My point is that Millsap isnt all that bad at defending at all, whereas someone as putrid offensively as Ben Wallace could still be apart of a offensively effective 4/5 combo. Sorry for the confusion. Millsap can definitely start for many many teams as a 4, IMO.