Mitchell injury

[Handlogten's Heros]

Let's face it. If he was a full participant in practice and wasn't ready, don't you think the rest of the team would've noticed him wincing or hobbling around or not being able to land properly, etc. I'm sure the team is pissed because they also thought he was ready.

Good point.

 

[Getting Traded]

And whose opinion was it that he was "not quite" ready. Not Don's, not his teammates. Quin hasn't said anything, has he, or Dennis. Step up to the plate, Dennis. Did Don's medical people have a different opinion? We need to know this.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I’d also like to throw it out there that Mitchell was jumping up and down on the bench last night. Hardly looked like someone who couldn’t go. Plus seeing it get chippy hyped him up even more and probably made him more pissed that he wasn’t out there.

 

[Getting Traded]

Also, LeBron is playing and he obviously is not 100 percent. But he is playing because it's the playoffs and he knows the Lakers need him. And Don is a lot younger and less prone to injury.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Kawhi situation was definitely worse, but the Jazz need to be careful that this doesn't go down the same path. Don already does not trust the training staff, that is what he has in common with Kawhi. You don't want this to linger and for him to not trust the whole organization like Kawhi.

I just can't imagine a situation where the training staff is too shy to put Mitchell on the injury report but confident enough to rule him out a couple hours before game time. It is literally against league rules. It does feel like a power grab situation from the training staff and even if it wasn't...you have to think Don and the players feel the same way.

I also think there was a joint decision here where the training staff wanted to show their authority, but maybe the FO thought they could probably win without Don (we should have) and didn't mind being extra cautious. That's why the FO allowed it. It might have been fine if the team won or the players weren't blindsided...but you can't blindside your whole team and then lose.

Don is not the only one pissed right now. Somebody is losing their job over this. Pure ineptitude to blindside your entire team right before a playoff game.

The more I think about it the more I agree someone getting **** canned here... for those of you that think the medical staff should survive this... how much has San Antonio's medical staff helped them the last few years without Kawhi?

I just don't know how this can be ****ed up this hard with everyone acting in good faith and competently. So go ahead and pick which one you want... incompetence or bad faith. Go ahead and blame who you want to... until the front office decides to give some clarity (they declined comment... which is just par for the course) everyone is right. Let the wild speculation run.

I've generally been cool with letting the front office slide because the devil you know is better than the devil you don't... but there has been enough dumb **** that I'm good making a pivot there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Also, LeBron is playing and he obviously is not 100 percent. But he is playing because it's the playoffs and he knows the Lakers need him. And Don is a lot younger and less prone to injury.

Bron also has his own medical staff and knows his body... the Lakers medical staff wouldn't be able to tell him nah.

 

[oneye]

If he was a full participant in practice, then you know that the players would have a good sense of whether or not he was ready, don't you think?

Bogey to end his answer last night was “you’ll have to ask him” not “you’ll have to ask the medical staff”. The other players were obviously annoyed, and not just with the training staff.

 

[One Brow]

Any time I suggest things can enter decision-making that's influenced by a myriad of other issues not pertinent to the actual issue at hand, people act like I'm crazy,

I hope I have never done that.

I mean, you are crazy, but we shouldn't act like that. I aim to be as crazy as you in that regard.

 

[One Brow]

The thing is the Jazz have one of the most highly respected medical staffs in the entire NBA, despite what some forum idiots want you to believe.

IIRC, our organization's staff let Memo destroy himself in the playoffs. I don't blame Mitchell for seeking outside opinions.

More generally, the Jazz staff has the goal of taking care of the players in a way that benefits the Jazz. Mitchell wanted people that were solely interested in taking care of Mitchell. That sounds reasonable.

 

[Getting Traded]

Bogey to end his answer last night was “you’ll have to ask him” not “you’ll have to ask the medical staff”. The other players were obviously annoyed, and not just with the training staff.

What do you mean? It was not Don's decision. If it were, he wouldn't be pissed or tweeting that he didn't know when he would be back.

 

[oneye]

What do you mean? It was not Don's decision. If it were, he wouldn't be pissed or tweeting that he didn't know when he would be back.

Simple. Image. Teammates can be annoyed with a disagreement on his sides training staff as well and the obvious tension he’s again been causing.

 

[KqWIN]

The more I think about it the more I agree someone getting **** canned here... for those of you that think the medical staff should survive this... how much has San Antonio's medical staff helped them the last few years without Kawhi?

I just don't know how this can be ****ed up this hard with everyone acting in good faith and competently. So go ahead and pick which one you want... incompetence or bad faith. Go ahead and blame who you want to... until the front office decides to give some clarity (they declined comment... which is just par for the course) everyone is right. Let the wild speculation run.

I've generally been cool with letting the front office slide because the devil you know is better than the devil you don't... but there has been enough dumb **** that I'm good making a pivot there.

Right...no matter how you slice it, someone ****ed up really bad. If Mitchell truly cannot play, why was he not on the injury report and how did it get to the point where we blindsided our own team? If DM was ready to go, the training staff really ****ed up by attempting a power grab and costing us a playoff win.

There's probably a hint of truth to everything and all sides. But the end result is distrust between player and training staff + blindsiding your own team right before a playoff game. Not good...someone has to be fired and held accountable. It's not Don and the FO (who is guilty in any account) is not going to fire themselves. The training staff is going to be sacrificed regardless of how much "blame" they deserve.