Where is that pit bull thread when I need it?

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Personally, I believe they are dangerous, not only because of breeding, but because they are frequently owned by people who can barely manage themselves, let alone a dog of that type.

That is probably the most accurate statement I've read in this thread. They are a dangerous breed and the people who own them (usually) are retards.

 

[LogGrad98]

I don't ever want a pitbull. They are ugly dogs, but I have a German Shepherd and have had a Rottweiler. They both have the same bad reputation for no reason. I totally disagree with you. It's definitely the owners' fault, not the breed of dog.

So if those same owners had teacup poodles, then we would have seen that 71% of all deaths were from teacup poodles? There is no way you can say the breed had nothing to do with it at all.

Maybe. I don't know, which looks more dangerous to you:

 

[Agoxlea]

Good point, and that link was interesting. I think the reason that most of the dogs are certain breeds are because they are the breeds that are capable of killing people. I was surprised by how pitbulls caused such a large percentage of the dog attack deaths. I think banning pitbulls would set a precedent that would ban other breeds considered dangerous. I know it is hard to find a place to rent even with a well behaved German Shepherd with an excellent doggy "resume". This is partly for insurance reasons. I don't think any breed should be banned, but more neighborhoods should form HOAs which I think should interview the dogs and look over the dog's training history.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

Maybe I'll reverse my decision and support an all-out ban on pittbulls. When 67% of dog related homicides are coming from a breed that is only 5% of the national dog population, you obviously have a problem with the breed itself. It still doesn't help that most pittbull owners are trying to live the thug life.

 

[SaltyDawg]

So if those same owners had teacup poodles, then we would have seen that 71% of all deaths were from teacup poodles? There is no way you can say the breed had nothing to do with it at all.

Maybe. I don't know, which looks more dangerous to you:

Those clipped ears also say a lot about the owner of that pit.

I think most of the problems with pit bulls are attributed to the trashy owners. You can raise any dog to be mean, or be nice. Those poodles might not be killing people, but they would be as aggressive as pit bulls if they were raised to be. They're just too small to be a real threat to kill anyone.

I wonder if we have more accidental pit bull deaths, or accidental shooting deaths in this country? I am not against banning guns or pit bulls. But if you are going to start banning things for being dangerous, then guns, cars, and plenty of other things should be on that list too.

 

[LogGrad98]

Dogs are unpredictable, guns are not. If a gun is just sitting there on the lawn with no one around likely it won't spontaneously fire at you. If a pitbull is sitting there on the lawn with no one around, you just don't know if it will spontaneously attack you or not.

Also, clipped ears can be part of the breed standard.

https://www.pitbulllovers.com/american-pit-bull-terrier-breed-standard.html

 

[Bronco70]

I wonder if we have more accidental pit bull deaths, or accidental shooting deaths in this country? I am not against banning guns or pit bulls. But if you are going to start banning things for being dangerous, then guns, cars, and plenty of other things should be on that list too.

Certainly, there are more accidental shootings, and at first I thought about drawing these comparisons. Here's the difference: A gun, car, or any other inanimate object is not going to cause damage without direct human interaction. An animal, on the other hand, can make its own decision to attack. I am not suggesting that animals possess the same reasoning power that people do, merely that they do not require direct human negligence or malice to be harmful.

edit: I didn't see Log's post before writing mine, but I think we're essentially saying the same thing.

 

[bigb]

But if you are going to start banning things for being dangerous, then guns, cars, and plenty of other things should be on that list too.

Like smoking pot and driving?

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I think you should change your stance to outlaw those little yapper dogs that won't shut up.
That is dangerous to an individuals sanity to have a neighbor's dog yapping 24/7 and could cause some serious mental damage.
Then again, the option to take out the owner may be the better option there too.

Don't outlaw dogs, outlaw dog owners... genius.

 

[Bronco70]

Like smoking pot and driving?

Repped.

 

[SaltyDawg]

Dogs are unpredictable, guns are not. If a gun is just sitting there on the lawn with no one around likely it won't spontaneously fire at you. If a pitbull is sitting there on the lawn with no one around, you just don't know if it will spontaneously attack you or not.

Also, clipped ears can be part of the breed standard.

https://www.pitbulllovers.com/american-pit-bull-terrier-breed-standard.html

No pit bull is born with clipped ears. If you see one with clipped ears, someone purposely clipped them. It's losers like that who give pit bulls a bad name.

They are just dogs. They'll act the way they are taught to act.

If there was some way to track it, I would bet the vast majority of pit bull attacks are from dogs that have been owned by a loser at some point. (and by loser, I mean someone that did not raise the dog right and either on purpose or inadvertently made it a mean dog)

 

[bigb]

No pit bull is born with clipped ears. If you see one with clipped ears, someone purposely clipped them. It's losers like that who give pit bulls a bad name.

They are just dogs. They'll act the way they are taught to act.

If there was some way to track it, I would bet the vast majority of pit bull attacks are from dogs that have been owned by a loser at some point. (and by loser, I mean someone that did not raise the dog right and either on purpose or inadvertently made it a mean dog)

That doesn't mean they're not an overly aggressive and dangerous breed. I'll bet you've owned at least one in your lifetime. Am I right?