Conley hamstringing again

[The Thriller]

Anyone one fearful that by the time Mike is healthy enough to play Spida will be so broken that it won’t matter?

Must be nice to be the Clippers. They’re not fighting through injuries like this. They just need to focus on their game plan. Sadly, it might not matter for us what the game plan is if Conley is out and Spida is broken.

 

[416Klawzz]

Reminds me of the George Hill situation

 

[nateboz]

What a wuss. 35 mill for a guy who gets hurt 4 times a year.

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[Jingled]

Reminds me of the George Hill situation

Also Rubio missed games 6 against OKC and then the entire second round against the Rockets with a hamstring injury. It seems the basketball gods just don't want us to have our starting point guard in the second round of the playoffs.

 

[NUMBERICA]

This is a real ****ing problem, y'all.

I don't think there's any indication that this is ever going to fully resolve. So if the Jazz keep him, I'd really hope Mike is reasonable with his demands because if he can't play 5 consecutive games then that makes his usefulness in the playoffs seriously dented.

Would be good to find another (big, point-ish) guard either way since if he is retained he should be mothballed fairly often to keep him healthy or will be injured for even more time. Could've done anything to address roster needs in the last draft but at least we got another unskilled big man whose best outcome is being ready enough to allow the Jazz to dump Favors into cap space.

 

[Avery]

Doesn't help Conley's contract situation if we're only getting partial seasons out of him.

 

[Max Porter]

I think he plays game 5 but I am definitely in the camp of questioning if it makes sense to resign him.

If we lose this series AND Conley doesn’t play a single game in it, we should not resign Conley period. I love his game but this our best chance at winning a chip. We can’t have our star point guard out with this much on the line

 

[NUMBERICA]

Glad his hamstring pull was "mild" after "feeling a little tug" and that this is precautionary. I'm very comforted by those things.

 

[NUMBERICA]

If we lose this series AND Conley doesn’t play a single game in it, we should not resign Conley period. I love his game but this our best chance at winning a chip. We can’t have our star point guard out with this much on the line

I'd pump the brakes on absolutes since the Jazz are ****ed regarding their assets, but I would say if he asks for, say, >$15 million a year then that's probably a pretty easy pass considering it seriously looks like he would not be able to stay healthy through the playoffs and the Jazz are probably even more ****ed regarding their cap situation.

 

[slc]

What about the Nets
They were overwhelming favorites to win this year
Now Harden and Irving are out
Their chances are not good anymore

 

[NUMBERICA]

I'm in the mood to vent even if I'm wrong:

Hindsight tells me that had we played Mitchell in game 1 and not rode Mike so hard, they would've been better positioned to allow each other less physical stress, the Jazz could've potentially ended in a sweep resulting in more rest, and they might both be more healthy as well.

Again, I know I'm bull ******** here but it really feels like there are a series of decisions that have created ripple-effects that got us here. Oh, and don't forget Quin refusing to pull the starters in many of the blowouts this year.

For all of the grief that the Clippers catch for load management, they're one of the only healthy teams left.

 

[Max Porter]

Here’s the crazy thing, even if we lose game 4, if Conley comes back game 5 healthy I still think we are the favorites to win it all. We can beat the clippers 2 out of 3 at home with Conley.

But we are running out of time and while we MAY beat LA without Mike we ain’t beating the suns without him. Period.

 

[LoPo]

No ****ing comment

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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Conley or no Conley, the Jazz still have to show up defensively to win the game.

Show up on defense
Limit turnovers
Get 50+ 3 point attempts
Control glass on both ends

Obviously a lot of these things are harder without Conley, but they can still be done.

Dont play Miye Oni any minutes (what a giant disappointment he has been). Play Gobert at least 40 minutes. Try Trent Forrest (Jazz desperately need another ball-handler, just for the purpose of bringing the ball up the court against pressure so our main players dont get worn out by the likes of Patrick Beverly hounding them).

Inject everyone with Jordan Clarkson vibes. Just shoot the damn ball when you're open, live with the results, and have the memory of a goldfish.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

You also probably have to trust that Niang has more to give than what he showed Game 3. The Jazz need his shooting and his decision making. Tell him to take less risk and make the rights reads, shoot when open, don't force in traffic passes to Gobert.

 

[LogGrad98]

Conley or no Conley, the Jazz still have to show up defensively to win the game.

Show up on defense
Limit turnovers
Get 50+ 3 point attempts
Control glass on both ends

Obviously a lot of these things are harder without Conley, but they can still be done.

Dont play Miye Oni any minutes (what a giant disappointment he has been). Play Gobert at least 40 minutes. Try Trent Forrest (Jazz desperately need another ball-handler, just for the purpose of bringing the ball up the court against pressure so our main players dont get worn out by the likes of Patrick Beverly hounding them).

Inject everyone with Jordan Clarkson vibes. Just shoot the damn ball when you're open, live with the results, and have the memory of a goldfish.

You know it's been proven that goldfish can remember things for at least 30 days. Especially their last miss on a three-pointer.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If we lose this series AND Conley doesn’t play a single game in it, we should not resign Conley period. I love his game but this our best chance at winning a chip. We can’t have our star point guard out with this much on the line

lmfao. And sign who?

The Jazz clearly need a player who can handle a heavy playmaking load next to Mitchell.

It's hilarious how vindicated I've been about needing a PG next to Mitchell. Seeing the Jazz with Conley down is great at times, but it can be easily schemed for and if Mitchell isnt in super human mode, the offense gets ugly.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I fully expect Kawhi to absolutely roast the Jazz tonight. I think the first two games where him just learning how our defense was going to play him and now he's in full terminator mode.

Got to make PG and Reggie Jackson feel pressure on shots and hope they miss, especially Jackson. Jazz cant have another game of Jackson burying them from deep.

 

[The Thriller]

Reminds me of the George Hill situation

Yep.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Holy ****, the responses in this thread are laughable.

We are sitting at 130M in guaranteed salary without Conley and the luxury tax is 136M.

We need to bring him back or we just lose an asset we can’t make up. There is no one else to sign.

Also, again with the trade bs. We traded Grayson Allen, Jae Crowder and picks for Conley. Considering our recent history with draft picks drafting guys like Azubuike ahead of wings who can defend and shoot you guys are sure confident. Crowder left Miami for Phoenix after making the Finals. What makes you think he’d be here right now?

We wouldn’t be in this position without Mike and it is blatantly obvious we are a better team with him.

We can win tonight and go back to Utah with a 3-1 lead. Hell, imagine winning the series without him and having him fresh for Phoenix. That would be awesome.