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Conley hamstringing again




mongoose01

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At this point I hate Conley all over again.
I know it isn’t his fault that he’s injured, but it just proves the point that he’s too old and too expensive. My original thoughts about the trade coming full circle.


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Thee Idiotic Minivan K

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So if we retain Conley next year, but only if we bleed other assets, then we get to put those assets on the list of assets we burned to get Conley in the first place, right? Yes we do.
What assets are we bleeding if we resign him? Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems we will be capped out resigned or not, right or wrong? If that’s the case, assuming the $ and years are correct why not resign him, unless we would have space if we let him walk. I just want to know what the options are in making the team better. All I know is.. when healthy Conley makes us really good, championship contenders even, but the trick is keeping him on the court. Maybe the answer is load management during the season so he can carry the load in the playoffs, I don’t know. So, with that said.. what are the pros and cons of resigning him? If we don’t, how do we add to the Mike Conley-less jazz?
 

NUMBERICA

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What assets are we bleeding if we resign him? Correct me if I’m wrong, but it seems we will be capped out resigned or not, right or wrong? If that’s the case, assuming the $ and years are correct why not resign him, unless we would have space if we let him walk. I just want to know what the options are in making the team better. All I know is.. when healthy Conley makes us really good, championship contenders even, but the trick is keeping him on the court. Maybe the answer is load management during the season so he can carry the load in the playoffs, I don’t know. So, with that said.. what are the pros and cons of resigning him? If we don’t, how do we add to the Mike Conley-less jazz?
So I don't know if you know what money is or how billionaires acquire so much of it, but it's not because they just yawn through burning dozens of millions of dollars a year. The LT ramifications of keeping this team together through next year (and especially beyond) are basically unprecedented.

The Jazz are not keeping this team together beyond next year (at best), guaranteed.
 

Thee Idiotic Minivan K

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So I don't know if you know what money is or how billionaires acquire so much of it, but it's not because they just yawn through burning dozens of millions of dollars a year. The LT ramifications of keeping this team together through next year (and especially beyond) are basically unprecedented.

The Jazz are not keeping this team together beyond next year (at best), guaranteed.
I don’t care about someone’s pockets, not what my post was about,I just want to know the outcomes of keeping or letting Mike walk in regards to improving the team over the next 2-4 seasons.
 

oneye

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An interesting deleted tweet by Tony. Sometimes I feel like Tony will tell us something without actually telling us. You have to wonder if the Conley situation is what Mitchell’s cryptic stuff on IG is about. Who know what all the things going into Mike not playing are about, but Mikes heading into a contract year and it would be unwise to go out and tear your hamstring.
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infection

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An interesting deleted tweet by Tony. Sometimes I feel like Tony will tell us something without actually telling us. You have to wonder if the Conley situation is what Mitchell’s cryptic stuff on IG is about. Who know what all the things going into Mike not playing are about, but Mikes heading into a contract year and it would be unwise to go out and tear your hamstring.
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Mike has really wanted to be an all-star. Mike has made over $200 million in basketball earnings alone. Right now he's playing for legacy. This is the best shot he's had at a title. I don't believe Mike is holding himself out. I still stand by the belief that we're trying to be cute with this and trying to "be extra cautious so we don't lose Mike for when we need him later in the playoffs" and not focusing on the real issue at hand that it's possible there may not be a later.
 

Elizah Huge

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Mike has really wanted to be an all-star. Mike has made over $200 million in basketball earnings alone. Right now he's playing for legacy. This is the best shot he's had at a title. I don't believe Mike is holding himself out. I still stand by the belief that we're trying to be cute with this and trying to "be extra cautious so we don't lose Mike for when we need him later in the playoffs" and not focusing on the real issue at hand that it's possible there may not be a later.

Game 5 will be telling.
 

oneye

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Mike has really wanted to be an all-star. Mike has made over $200 million in basketball earnings alone. Right now he's playing for legacy. This is the best shot he's had at a title. I don't believe Mike is holding himself out. I still stand by the belief that we're trying to be cute with this and trying to "be extra cautious so we don't lose Mike for when we need him later in the playoffs" and not focusing on the real issue at hand that it's possible there may not be a later.
I think the medical staff is weighing health at 100% and situation at 0%. Like I said Tony will hint at something at times. I didn’t think Dons answer last night seemed very frustrated at all tbh. So I was surprised to see Tony say this. I’m guessing Mike would like to play, but Mike is also not going to pull the stunts Donovan did to get cleared to play. I expect Mike back for game 5. I would guess Mitchell’s IG posts are in fact in relation to this though. Also, if I had $200 million, it doesn’t mean I wouldn’t want $100 million more. He severely hurts his hamstring and that next contract takes a major hit.
 

oneye

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Game 5 will be telling.
I 100% believe the staff will clear him if he’s anywhere close for game 5. 14 days has been their standard for recovery on this with him. If he doesn’t play game 5, it’s either worse than we all think, or we’re being extremely extremely cautious either on the staff side or Mike side. However Mike did play in Memphis with a broken face at one point so I won’t necassarily question his will or want to play.
 

infection

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I think the medical staff is weighing health at 100% and situation at 0%. Like I said Tony will hint at something at times. I didn’t think Dons answer last night seemed very frustrated at all tbh. So I was surprised to see Tony say this. I’m guessing Mike would like to play, but Mike is also not going to pull the stunts Donovan did to get cleared to play. I expect Mike back for game 5. I would guess Mitchell’s IG posts are in fact in relation to this though. Also, if I had $200 million, it doesn’t mean I wouldn’t want $100 million more. He severely hurts his hamstring and that next contract takes a major hit.
Of course people always want more money, and Mike will make money somewhere regardless. You don't have the opportunity at a championship always. Mike can be a part of that and not some vet-discount ride-along in a big market. When you have that kind of money, the holes in your life become more and more magnified, and a championship becomes one of those things you may focus more on.
 

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