Conley hamstringing again

[Handlogten's Heros]

I feel like every year guys rush back from injury during the playoffs to chance it... sometimes it ends tragically like with KD... sometimes like with Steph it ends in a title. Kawhi was on one leg the year the Raps won. I believe Bosh also rushed back at some point and played a part in a title team.

It doesn't feel great but if Mike feels good enough to go and if he's comfortable chancing it then he should be given the opportunity to try.

 

[babe]

I feel like every year guys rush back from injury during the playoffs to chance it... sometimes it ends tragically like with KD... sometimes like with Steph it ends in a title. Kawhi was on one leg the year the Raps won. I believe Bosh also rushed back at some point and played a part in a title team.

It doesn't feel great but if Mike feels good enough to go and if he's comfortable chancing it then he should be given the opportunity to try.

I have been of the opinion/uniformed guess that Conley has felt like he could play, and it's load management/coachdecision to try to let it heal if we can "afford to".

reputation means a lot in most "games" or enterprises/political causes/corporations/governments. It's always gonna a public relations problem/guessing game to a large extent. But reasonablyh talented and intelligent players will look at policies like this and estimate their relative chances with different management characteristics.

Our management will look better than most to the better playersl

This is a long term win for us to be this way..

 

[Sean]

I would be okay with that I guess ... as long as our guys know what it is... having the ghost of Mike Conley hang out there likely causes a little stress for the clips coaches at least.

I think it's pretty clear the Clippers have caught on. It's been the same game all four: the day before, Conley is listed as questionable. The day of, he's listed as OUT.

They'd be stupid to keep falling for it. Yeah, it's a great 'oh ****' move if they do it again for game five and then, bam, he's ready to play but let's be honest: that's not likely to happen. So, any edge we may have gotten from it originally is played out and now it's just creating way more questions than answers. At the end of the day, in terms of injury lexicon (and not just the word), questionable means there's question whether he'll play or not. I think we're beyond that point. End the charade and list him as doubtful. If, by some miracle, he's able to play, then beautiful!

 

[oneye]

Weren't you screaming in the other thread about how much you hated this trainer and wanted him away from our team's bench during games?

I do, his private trainer does not have any business on our bench during games. Outside of that, it’s fine that he has personal trainers. But they should not be involved during a game. Imagine if all 14 guys had their own personal staff on our bench during every playoff game and everyone had to consult on spur of the moment things. No. Dude thinks hes more special than the 14 other guys on the roster when he says he’s so “humble”.

 

[Deleted member 365]

It’s now or never for Conley. If he doesn’t play then his off-season can begin in a week. If he does play and reinjures it, then his off-season will begin in a week. If he plays and doesn’t reinjure it, then he has a chance at a ring.

And for the life of me I don’t understand why we didn’t work to shore up our PG situation this past summer? How much was Curry signed for? Why didn’t we pick up Rivers? Seems to me like either would’ve been 100x better than Thomas, played PG, and come at a low(er) cost. Right?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think it's pretty clear the Clippers have caught on. It's been the same game all four: the day before, Conley is listed as questionable. The day of, he's listed as OUT.

They'd be stupid to keep falling for it. Yeah, it's a great 'oh ****' move if they do it again for game five and then, bam, he's ready to play but let's be honest: that's not likely to happen. So, any edge we may have gotten from it originally is played out and now it's just creating way more questions than answers. At the end of the day, in terms of injury lexicon (and not just the word), questionable means there's question whether he'll play or not. I think we're beyond that point. End the charade and list him as doubtful. If, by some miracle, he's able to play, then beautiful!

two weeks has been the protocol before... it will be two weeks on Wednesday. If he doesn't play then I think its pretty safe to assume he's done for the series (and season). Tomorrow is a must win game (for reals). Tomorrow is the full on panic day for me if he can't play. Up until now it would be breaking their normal protocol to have him back.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

It’s now or never for Conley. If he doesn’t play then his off-season can begin in a week. If he does play and reinjures it, then his off-season will begin in a week. If he plays and doesn’t reinjure it, then he has a chance at a ring.

And for the life of me I don’t understand why we didn’t work to shore up our PG situation this past summer? How much was Curry signed for? Why didn’t we pick up Rivers? Seems to me like either would’ve been 100x better than Thomas, played PG, and come at a low(er) cost. Right?

Curry was under contract and traded. You can go ahead and bury that one... we had no shot... were there other options... yup!

 

[LoPo]

I do, his private trainer does not have any business on our bench during games. Outside of that, it’s fine that he has personal trainers. But they should not be involved during a game. Imagine if all 14 guys had their own personal staff on our bench during every playoff game and everyone had to consult on spur of the moment things. No. Dude thinks hes more special than the 14 other guys on the roster when he says he’s so “humble”.

How does a personal staff member have anything to do with being humble? It's not like they are over there waving palm leaves when he sits on the bench.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

I have been of the opinion/uniformed guess that Conley has felt like he could play, and it's load management/coachdecision to try to let it heal if we can "afford to".

reputation means a lot in most "games" or enterprises/political causes/corporations/governments. It's always gonna a public relations problem/guessing game to a large extent. But reasonablyh talented and intelligent players will look at policies like this and estimate their relative chances with different management characteristics.

Our management will look better than most to the better playersl

This is a long term win for us to be this way..

Yes kind of. I am not saying he should play if he has a really good chance of hurting it immediately. You shouldn't be reckless. I think we are regarded as a high class organization but that doesn't get us a ton... folks still mock Utah and the Jazz (which is fine). Winning a title is the single biggest thing we could do to gain notoriety and get a big win long term.

Example... Quin always keeps it classy with the refs... yet we still get screwed. Doc, CP, and many others get dirty and sully their names... they also get more calls due to their behavior.

 

[oneye]

How does a personal staff member have anything to do with being humble? It's not like they are over there waving palm leaves when he sits on the bench.

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Because he’s the only one who feels entitled enough out of the 15 guys to have his personal trainer on our bench during a game. It’s absolutely a “I’m too good for the same staff the rest of you all have” type of mentality. Having his own staff with their own opinions is fine. But they are not part of the organization or group that’s in a playoff series and they have no business on the bench during a game. That doesn’t build cohesion or lighten tension, that makes it worse and builds divide.

 

[infection]

I think they’re also a little afraid of listing him as active because it looks like they’re factoring non-health issues into the decision.

 

[Sean]

two weeks has been the protocol before... it will be two weeks on Wednesday. If he doesn't play then I think its pretty safe to assume he's done for the series (and season). Tomorrow is a must win game (for reals). Tomorrow is the full on panic day for me if he can't play. Up until now it would be breaking their normal protocol to have him back.

Agreed. I'm just not confident he will. :/