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draft night will be a tell to me on whether we think Mike is coming back. If we trade back (1st for 2 seconds or the 1st and Udoka trade I suggested) or dump Favs I think we know he's coming back... or at least they are budgeting accordingly.
 
Tony continues saying the core of this team will likely be broken up without improvements in the postseason. I’m just curious as to what exactly Tony means here, like a compete rebuild? Is it referring to Rudy and Donovan? Is it referring to the other guys like Bogey, Joe, etc.? He’s mentioned it several times, and I’m just wondering what exactly it means.24CCB8DC-2AFE-4FBD-8EA2-797059478F98.jpeg
 
oneye said:
Tony continues saying the core of this team will likely be broken up without improvements in the postseason. I’m just curious as to what exactly Tony means here, like a compete rebuild? Is it referring to Rudy and Donovan? Is it referring to the other guys like Bogey, Joe, etc.? He’s mentioned it several times, and I’m just wondering what exactly it means.View attachment 10931
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It means they wouldn't run the same team back with the same structure. That could take many forms. I'm surprised for a guy who can read all the small detail into anything online that you seem to be struggling with this one.
 
I dont if the Jazz would be willing to do it, but it seems like it'd be possible to trade up with the Wizards if you're willing to take on the Bertans contract.
 
Just listened to Tony Jones on the Bill Riley show. Sounds like Niang is really the only rotation guy that he doesn't expect to be back next season. Say's the Jazz feel like they are really close and don't need to make major changes, instead they just need to do some tweaking and refining to the roster. As far as the back end of the roster, Niang and Ilyasova not expected to be back and Matt Thomas could be gone as well, Morgan's chances of coming back are 50/50 at this point. Oni and Hughes both expected to be back, he didn't really mention Brantley, Forrest or Dok.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont if the Jazz would be willing to do it, but it seems like it'd be possible to trade up with the Wizards if you're willing to take on the Bertans contract.
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Damn that's a 5 year contract. I didn't even know those existed anymore.
 
oneye said:
Tony continues saying the core of this team will likely be broken up without improvements in the postseason. I’m just curious as to what exactly Tony means here, like a compete rebuild? Is it referring to Rudy and Donovan? Is it referring to the other guys like Bogey, Joe, etc.? He’s mentioned it several times, and I’m just wondering what exactly it means.View attachment 10931
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I think Rudy is moved before Donovan... The issue with the current roster is Joe is out after next year either way... Conley and Bojan are older... Rudy won't get better imo... so you pay a bunch and it doesn't work... means the re-tool or re-build starts.
 
Jingled said:
Just listened to Tony Jones on the Bill Riley show. Sounds like Niang is really the only rotation guy that he doesn't expect to be back next season. Say's the Jazz feel like they are really close and don't need to make major changes, instead they just need to do some tweaking and refining to the roster. As far as the back end of the roster, Niang and Ilyasova not expected to be back and Matt Thomas could be gone as well, Morgan's chances of coming back are 50/50 at this point. Oni and Hughes both expected to be back, he didn't really mention Brantley, Forrest or Dok.
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If they have Doke and Favs on the roster then go ahead and free Morgan.
 
Jingled said:
Just listened to Tony Jones on the Bill Riley show. Sounds like Niang is really the only rotation guy that he doesn't expect to be back next season. Say's the Jazz feel like they are really close and don't need to make major changes, instead they just need to do some tweaking and refining to the roster. As far as the back end of the roster, Niang and Ilyasova not expected to be back and Matt Thomas could be gone as well, Morgan's chances of coming back are 50/50 at this point. Oni and Hughes both expected to be back, he didn't really mention Brantley, Forrest or Dok.
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My worry is I don't think you are getting Nic Batum (or someone of that talent tier) to come in and play Niang's role. We don't have a money advantage... need to have a role advantage.
 
infection said:
It means they wouldn't run the same team back with the same structure. That could take many forms. I'm surprised for a guy who can read all the small detail into anything online that you seem to be struggling with this one.
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Right, but it feels like Tony is pointing towards a major change in direction and he's mentioned it several times. I'm just wondering if the entire core, some of the core, what it looks like in his opinion. It feels like you have to enter rebuild if that's the case.

Handlogten's Heros said:
I think Rudy is moved before Donovan... The issue with the current roster is Joe is out after next year either way... Conley and Bojan are older... Rudy won't get better imo... so you pay a bunch and it doesn't work... means the re-tool or re-build starts.
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Which again, is contradictory to the idea that if the Jazz took the step back this year, they'd be in trouble with Mitchell. So he's going to be just fine with a major shakeup and step back next offseason with less time on his contract? As for Joe, I think that's exactly the reason you try and trade Joe this season before the deadline. And why re-sign Mike to a 3 year deal or something if major changes are coming? That's stupid. Don't re-sign Mike and let cap space open up next offseason. Giving Mike a 2-3 year deal that caps you out, while also knowing you are probably going to shakeup the entire roster next offseason is nonsensical. Do it now if that's the plan. I guess you could re-sign Mike and trade him next year, but I don't understand the approach of running back this roster, capping yourself out with Mike, and then not trading Joe this season. Tony keeps harping on we can't replace Mike if he just walks because we are capped out, yeah and if you do re-sign him it caps you out for the foreseeable future too, whereas if you don't re-sign him, yes there are negatives to losing him, and yet, you have cap space available in the future if you don't. If you can get Mike on a 2 year +1 with the +1 being a team option I guess that's fine, but you can set yourself up for around $15-20 million in 2 summers if you can do that and sign mostly short term contracts. Idk, it will depend on the moves they can make around the edges of the team as far as improvements go on how I feel, but if you can't get to a truly contending level for next season, start the aggressive turnover now.
 
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