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Report: Dame plans to request a trade in coming days

LoPo said:
Oh, I'm just throwing stuff out there. I don't think we really have a realistic shot. We could get involved as a 3rd team getting something else, but I just don't see us getting Dame in any scenario. He would literally have to come out and say he wants to play for us. I don't see that happening.

And really, I don't see Dame and Don being a great pairing unless we brought Covington with Dame and got more perimeter defending.
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If you have Dame and Donovan, but no Rudy, we are just a slightly better Portland team, and Portland is not as good as we currently are, in large part because they don't have Rudy.
 
oneye said:
Which is why him refuting it seems like he probably got a hold of Dame right when he saw it reported. Nurk has flat out said he won't be back without Dame. I believe Nurk's money is not guaranteed next year and he can be a free agent if he truly wanted. So it seems like Nurk likely got a hold of Lillard the second he saw all this and wanted to know so he could start making his own decisions. Dame must have told him it wasn't true. Also Haynes reported Dame is going to address this report after Team USA practice today at 1:30 our time I believe.
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Nurk’s contract is partially guaranteed at 4m. Let’s just go for a complete Blazers-Jazz merger. In Utah ofcourse under the Jazz name.
 
I really do think the league needs to address this idea if players demanding trades or buyouts with multiple years left on a contract. I’m all for player empowerment and understand that teams can (mostly) trade a player at any time, but this is getting to the point where it defeats the point of a contract. Players get guaranteed money but teams to not get the guaranteed player.

It is clear the “super max” did not accomplish its intent so I do hope they remove that from future CBAs. I
 
Ujfanatic said:
I really do think the league needs to address this idea if players demanding trades or buyouts with multiple years left on a contract. I’m all for player empowerment and understand that teams can (mostly) trade a player at any time, but this is getting to the point where it defeats the point of a contract. Players get guaranteed money but teams to not get the guaranteed player.

It is clear the “super max” did not accomplish its intent so I do hope they remove that from future CBAs. I
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The majority of owners will start to raise a stink about it. There's only a handful of owners who this benefits and the other 25 or so have to be growing tired of it. You could go as far as implementing a rule that if you sign a full max or supermax extension, you can't be traded by team or player choice for the first 3 or 4 years of that contract. It really is getting to a point contracts are totally meaningless, and that's beyond just player empowerment. At some point owners will swing the pendulum back. The whole Harden situation really started creating a lot of tension for Silver from some things I read, and this? Well this has potential to really set off some fires if true. Dame won't go to the lengths Harden did though. It will be interesting because the Blazers are in every position here to fight back, and Dame's public image is something he won't burn to the ground just to get moved(Portland has to know that). If he asks for a trade, hold firm and don't do it. At some point the other side of this issue has to start using their own leverage, and Portlands leverage is, say no, and if Dame wants to make an *** out of himself, let him for a year or two before you trade him.
 
Ujfanatic said:
I really do think the league needs to address this idea if players demanding trades or buyouts with multiple years left on a contract. I’m all for player empowerment and understand that teams can (mostly) trade a player at any time, but this is getting to the point where it defeats the point of a contract. Players get guaranteed money but teams to not get the guaranteed player.

It is clear the “super max” did not accomplish its intent so I do hope they remove that from future CBAs. I
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Rules I would install in the NBA -

Draft should be 3 rounds: use an expanded draft to enhance the GLeague.

Buyout players: a team that signs a bought out player loses a 2nd rounder to the team that bought the player out.

Players who demand trades lose a portion of their salary. If you want to leave, your contract stays as the same hit to your new team, but you don't make as much at your new team. Maybe that extra money goes to charity, basketball initiatives elsewhere, etc. I'd say 5%.

Also, teams that trade for a max player should have some sort of draft penalty. Not sure what that would be.



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LoPo said:
Oh, I'm just throwing stuff out there. I don't think we really have a realistic shot. We could get involved as a 3rd team getting something else, but I just don't see us getting Dame in any scenario. He would literally have to come out and say he wants to play for us. I don't see that happening.

And really, I don't see Dame and Don being a great pairing unless we brought Covington with Dame and got more perimeter defending.
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Agreed - Dame and Don dont make sense together IMO. The only way you go after this is if you decided to do Donny for Dame and I doubt that is even considered.
 
LoPo said:
Rules I would install in the NBA -

Draft should be 3 rounds: use an expanded draft to enhance the GLeague.

Buyout players: a team that signs a bought out player loses a 2nd rounder to the team that bought the player out.

Players who demand trades lose a portion of their salary. If you want to leave, your contract stays as the same hit to your new team, but you don't make as much at your new team. Maybe that extra money goes to charity, basketball initiatives elsewhere, etc. I'd say 5%.

Also, teams that trade for a max player should have some sort of draft penalty. Not sure what that would be.



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I think you could almost fix it with just a draft component. Something like the disadvantaged team has the right to swap any and all picks for the next 5 seasons and they get 3 first round outright. So for 8 seasons the draft of the Lakers...uh I mean the team that essentially "stole" the player that forced their way out has great draft uncertainty for the next 8 seasons.
 
LogGrad98 said:
I think you could almost fix it with just a draft component. Something like the disadvantaged team has the right to swap any and all picks for the next 5 seasons and they get 3 first round outright. So for 8 seasons the draft of the Lakers...uh I mean the team that essentially "stole" the player that forced their way out has great draft uncertainty for the next 8 seasons.
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They won't ever go that punitive because teams wouldn't trade for players anymore. And in the era of player power, the NBPA would never sign off on that.

There just needs to be some kind of penalty for demanding a trade for both sides.

In the soccer world, when a player hands in a "transfer request", they actually lose money in the process. They stand to lose incentives and parts of bonuses given. So if they want to leave that badly, they make sacrifices. The NBA needs something like this. If Dame makes a trade "demand", he should lose something in the process instead of just getting everything he wants.
 
LoPo said:
They won't ever go that punitive because teams wouldn't trade for players anymore. And in the era of player power, the NBPA would never sign off on that.

There just needs to be some kind of penalty for demanding a trade for both sides.

In the soccer world, when a player hands in a "transfer request", they actually lose money in the process. They stand to lose incentives and parts of bonuses given. So if they want to leave that badly, they make sacrifices. The NBA needs something like this. If Dame makes a trade "demand", he should lose something in the process instead of just getting everything he wants.
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No set it up to only hit when a max player forces their way out.
 
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