That makes it even more baffling that Quin wouldn’t alter his rotation in the Clipper series with Niang struggling so badly. Early in that series, we saw Ty Lue trying anything and everything with his rotation and in the beginning it looked like a desperation move; and maybe it was but it allowed him to find the rotation that worked best for the Clips.
The Minimum FA Bargain Bin
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Roy_McAvoy
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Veteran Minimum deals:
Sterling Brown
Abdel Nader
Torrey Craig
Nicolas Batum
Timothe Luwawu Cabarrot
Moe Harkless
Rondae Hollis Jefferson
Stanley Johnson
James Ennis
Semi Ojeleye
Denzel Valentine
Justice Winslow
Trey Lyles
Some bigs:
Nerlens Noel
Harry Giles
Jarred Vanderbilt
Gorgui Deing
Alex Len
Dwayne Dedmon
Moe Wagner
I also haven’t had enough time yet to vet guys for the tax payer mid level exception but some quick names I like:
- Hamidou Diallo (may be a big pipe dream)
- Otto Porter jr (He’s not what he was pre injury)
- Paul Millsap
- Tony Snell
- Kent Bazmore
- Jamychal Green
Sterling Brown
Abdel Nader
Torrey Craig
Nicolas Batum
Timothe Luwawu Cabarrot
Moe Harkless
Rondae Hollis Jefferson
Stanley Johnson
James Ennis
Semi Ojeleye
Denzel Valentine
Justice Winslow
Trey Lyles
Some bigs:
Nerlens Noel
Harry Giles
Jarred Vanderbilt
Gorgui Deing
Alex Len
Dwayne Dedmon
Moe Wagner
I also haven’t had enough time yet to vet guys for the tax payer mid level exception but some quick names I like:
- Hamidou Diallo (may be a big pipe dream)
- Otto Porter jr (He’s not what he was pre injury)
- Paul Millsap
- Tony Snell
- Kent Bazmore
- Jamychal Green
I try not to let the playoffs influence me too much on players... But holy **** was Niang useless in the playoffs.
Any decision we make this off-season should be aimed at what would help us in the playoffs. I pretty much don't care for roster spots 9-15+2... Who cares if they won't see the floor? They might get you a win here or there in the regular season but in the grand scheme of things those players are inconsequential. We need to have at the very least 8 playable guys in the playoffs and preferably those 8 or 9 should provide some versatility for you so you can actually counter when the opponent makes adjustments rather than be dead in the water, like we've been two seasons in a row now once the opponent figures out our primary mode of play.
And if our guy no. 7 or 8 looks like one that won't be able to play in the playoffs... then I'm good letting him go. Any player that cannot play in the playoffs doesn't deserve much more than a vet min, IMO... i.e. end of bench type of money.
jom2003
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Because like what's been reported, Quin wasn't happy with the end-of-bench guys DL selected for him and believed those guys weren't good enough for him to adjust his rotation. And he has a point here. Jeff Green was good enough for his rotation so Quin benched Niang in favor of Jeff, who's now had heck of a playoff run on back-to-back seasons.
The night before Jeff was waived, Quin played him 18min in a tight loss against the Heat where he shot 3 for 8, and only 8 minutes for Niang who went 1 for 7(pretty remarkable for a guy who's only played 8min).
I mean, if FO actually gave Quin the choice to keep one of those two players only a few hours after that game, you'd think it's a pretty easy choice for Quin to make, isn't it? Except DL didn't and he's now paid the price.
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Personally, I believe in Niang as someone who can play in the playoffs. He's one of the few guys on the roster that showed some understanding of defensive concepts outside of being a statue. His shooting was awful, but I believe in his entire body of work over one playoff series. You absolutely need guys to knock down open shots in the playoffs and I trust that he can be that guy. Defensively, I also trust him to give us more than Conley, Mitchell, Bogey, Clarkson, and maybe even Ingles at his age.
To me, Bogey+Clarkson is luxury we can't afford to have. Both provide little to nothing outside of scoring. IMO, the value that having both gives you is insurance when someone is injured, but the Jazz aren't winning the title they aren't healthy anyways. It makes sense to move one of them for a more versatile player. Having all these scorers/ballhandlers in surplus is a RS bonus, but not so much in the playoffs.
Ineptimusprime
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Agreed. I doubt the Jazz see it that way though.
I think he would be an excellent addition.
Isaiah 1:13
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Based on what I saw in a recent Tribune article, we should have about 6.9 to work with. Not sure how that’s effected by Niang, no Niang or by the new projection for the Conley contract. Over the cap either way. But you can break up the MLE. Love to get RHJ at minimum and give the rest to Batum or possibly Portis.
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Just his shooting was awful? Not the 3 min sequence in which he was like a legit -12 +/- almost all exclusively his doing?
“Stop trying to make fetch happen….”
Yeah, what? It may be fair to say that “it’s just one playoff series”, but it is a lie to say he played anything but absolutely terribly. It’s one of the worst stretch of important minutes I can ever recall from a Jazz player. He was breathtakingly bad.
I've never made the claim that he wasn't awful in that series. You can check the receipts and find that I called him awful in that series repeatedly. I just don't evaluate an entire player based on a single series.
I also never said it was just shooting was awful, but people love making debating against things they make up themselves here so I'm not surprised.