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Can anyone tell me what ingredient they are using to deliver the mRNA to the cell? It's my understanding that mRNA dies on contact with almost anything including oxygen, saliva, blood. So what are they using to protect that mRNA as it travels through the body and into the cell?

It's also my understanding that the material they're using is not listed on the ingredients list, why?
I found this from Connecticut health department

There's no mention of this fabled mystery ingredient. It does list the nanolipids used to protect and help deliver the mRNA into the cells.
 
With California having 1.5 million more active cases than any other state, why is nobody talking about them? The state is 65% vaccinated and 80% have had a single dose according to NYT



The same NYT dashboard shows Florida as having the highest recent trends of cases at around 20k per day. A bit hard to navigate the data waters sometimes with COVID as different sites seem to have different inputs leading to different outputs.


We shouldn’t be surprised that places with high populations will also have the highest case counts.

Hospitalizations and deaths are the real indicators we should pay attention to.
 
I found this from Connecticut health department

There's no mention of this fabled mystery ingredient. It does list the nanolipids used to protect and help deliver the mRNA into the cells.
Thanks for that.

Interesting, there is a PEGylated lipid that is proprietary for both Moderna and Pfizer which is not required to be listed on the ingredient list. It would be interesting to find out what they attached to the polyethylene glycol but they're not required to tell us.
 
Thanks for that.

Interesting, there is a PEGylated lipid that is proprietary for both Moderna and Pfizer which is not required to be listed on the ingredient list. It would be interesting to find out what they attached to the polyethylene glycol but they're not required to tell us.
So your question is "what is the mRNA that all this other junk is protected by?"

If that's the case, I'd feel safe saying that it's just a lab created protein with the code(or memory) on how to fight the disease targeted. Is it standard practice to include what type of cell they started with?
 
Thanks for that.

Interesting, there is a PEGylated lipid that is proprietary for both Moderna and Pfizer which is not required to be listed on the ingredient list. It would be interesting to find out what they attached to the polyethylene glycol but they're not required to tell us.
I found this page @ mayoclinic website. It says:
  • Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine. This type of vaccine uses genetically engineered mRNA to give your cells instructions for how to make the S protein found on the surface of the COVID-19 virus. After vaccination, your immune cells begin making the S protein pieces and displaying them on cell surfaces. This causes your body to create antibodies. If you later become infected with the COVID-19 virus, these antibodies will fight the virus.

    After delivering instructions, the mRNA is immediately broken down. It never enters the nucleus of your cells, where your DNA is kept. Both the Pfizer-BioNTech and the Moderna COVID-19 vaccines use mRNA.

So maybe it makes sense not to list it?
 
So your question is "what is the mRNA that all this other junk is protected by?"

If that's the case, I'd feel safe saying that it's just a lab created protein with the code(or memory) on how to fight the disease targeted. Is it standard practice to include what type of cell they started with?
No, it's whats the gunk protecting mRNA. Like I said before, mRNA is nearly impossible to keep intact, oxygen, saliva, and blood all destroy it. They mRNA isn't the key to all this, they've been studying it for at least a decade, its how they figured to keep it intact to deliver the message to your DNA.
 
No, it's whats the gunk protecting mRNA. Like I said before, mRNA is nearly impossible to keep intact, oxygen, saliva, and blood all destroy it. They mRNA isn't the key to all this, they've been studying it for at least a decade, its how they figured to keep it intact to deliver the message to your DNA.

Didn't we already discuss nanolipids? I'll paste it from the pdf from Connecticut:
- Lipids: Nanolipids, or tiny fat molecules, protect the mRNA and provide a “greasy” exterior that helps the mRNA slide inside cells. Nanolipid components in the Pfzer-BioNTech vaccine include: ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1- diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), 2 [(polyethylene glycol)-2000]- N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3- phosphocholine, and cholesterol

Did you miss that previously?

mRNA has been theorized since the 60's, and there are other mRNA vaccines already created(influenza, rabies, zika). It reported succesful in the 90's on a small scale and has gotten better since.
 
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Didn't we already discuss nanolipids? I'll paste it from the pdf from Connecticut:


Did you miss that previously?
Again,

Interesting, there is a PEGylated lipid that is proprietary for both Moderna and Pfizer which is not required to be listed on the ingredient list. It would be interesting to find out what they attached to the polyethylene glycol but they're not required to tell us.
 
Can anyone tell me what ingredient they are using to deliver the mRNA to the cell? It's my understanding that mRNA dies on contact with almost anything including oxygen, saliva, blood. So what are they using to protect that mRNA as it travels through the body and into the cell?

It's also my understanding that the material they're using is not listed on the ingredients list, why?

“My understanding” lmfao. Hack the Scientist. You can’t make this **** up. The vaccine is basically 99.8% effective against death and there are no serious side effects and he’s going to use his “advanced knowledge” on the topic and question it.

Class, I hope everyone is listening. Hack is going to present now regarding his expertise on the Covid vaccine.
 
I guess the problem is, we know what the Chinese are using in their PEGylated lipid, it's graphine oxide....That's a fact.

What are Moderna and Pfizer using? We don't know as it's proprietary.
 
“My understanding” lmfao. Hack the Scientist. You can’t make this **** up. The vaccine is basically 99.8% effective against death and there are no serious side effects and he’s going to use his “advanced knowledge” on the topic and question it.

Class, I hope everyone is listening. Hack is going to present now regarding his expertise on the Covid vaccine.
You know how we know you're DAF? 85% of Israeli adults have been vaccinated, 95% of current Israeli hospitalizations are vaccinated.

Bitch, I could be the dean of the UofU medical school and you wouldn't know better
 
Again,

Interesting, there is a PEGylated lipid that is proprietary for both Moderna and Pfizer which is not required to be listed on the ingredient list. It would be interesting to find out what they attached to the polyethylene glycol but they're not required to tell us.
I'm not entirely sure of your motive here. You clearly are calling this a lipid, and I've provided you a list of lipids, twice. You don't know what you're looking for, but insist it's there and NOT already in the provided list, and they don't have to list it.

So you can't identify what you want, insist something's there that isn't listed, and are also sure that what's listed isn't it. Your link doesn't mention the word "proprietary" at all, and reuters debunked this claim a couple weeks back. The sample provided to the Spaniard testing it could not verify it's origin. (July 23rd)

The allegations are based on an analysis by a professor in Spain which has been rejected by experts. He obtained what he himself described as non-conclusive results after studying one vial. He said the vial was purported to contain a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine but said it had come to him by a messenger service and acknowledged that the vial’s origin was unknown.

Be honest. Were you honestly mislead, or just trying to spread misinformation so you can skirt a needle prick?
 
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