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How about neither? Let’s continue to elect capable and decent human beings as leaders. We don’t have to elect disgusting pigs like Trump and MTG.
While we are at it lets put an age limit on presidential candidates.
How does it make sense that we as a society/country basically put everyone over 65 out to pasture or to toil as wal mart greeters yet we are cool with dudes way over retirement age holding the most important job in the entire country. Thats just plain stupid.
Look, my dad is an amazing man. Fought in vietnam, college educated, extremely intelligent and worked in a very difficult field his entire life and thrived.
He is currently 78 years old (just had a birthday in august) and no signs of senility or alzheimers. He is in great shape for a man his age (still lifts weighs daily and walks 5 miles daily). So physically and mentally he is at the top of his game for his age. But he is 78 years old. No way in hell should he be president. His hearing is shot, he forgets why he walked into a room, he is out of touch with the younger generation, he takes great pleasure in having a good (and rare) bowel movement.

Lets stop electing dinosaurs. Lets all come together on this one thing. Republican or democrat. At the next primaries of each respective parties presidential candidates lets try to vote for someone under 65 and have a couple of people at least close to their best (their prime if you will) running for the highest office in the country.
 
Genuine question… now that we are 8 months into Biden’s presidency, what did Trump do policy wise that people hated so much?
I never hated him for his policies. In fact trump and I were on the same page on a few things. Though I did hate many of his policies that was never my problem with him. Im always going to hate many of the presidents policies no matter who is president and I will like a few of them as well. I dont vote for the president based on his policies.
Cant have a president who behaves in his manner though. Too much of a douchebag. Too volatile. Too corrupt. Too scandalous. Too many tweets. Too petty (has to bring up every criticism so he can play the victim. If someone says he has small hands, you best believe he will speak of that slight at his next rally) All up in my day to day business too much. Too many press conferences. Too divisive (intentionally). Wanted us all to hate each other. Loved to talk about "the left" or "the other side" as if they were his enemies. So many relationships across the country were destroyed by the president. Too many rallies. Too many worshippers buying his brand. Too concerned about his brand. Coined phrases such as "fake news" (made the press into evil diabolical enemies). "alternative facts". He hated truth and loved lies. Lied more than any president in history. Golfed more than any president in a single term in history. Had way too much historical baggage (trump university, cheating on 3 different wives while they were pregnant, grab em by the *****, beauty pagent scandals, sleeping with porn stars). He was unqualified. He hated people who kneeled for the anthem in protest yet acted a fool and way more disrespectful during the anthem for the superbowl. He verbally trashed our military troops. (I like people who werent captured) He did a photo opp with an upside down bible during a time of great civil unrest. He fired people on whims for simply disagreeing with him. He allowed no dissenting voices to be in his presence. Was a vocal proponent of the the claim that obama wasn't born here. He was a reality tv star ffs.
Thats just off the top of my head. If i were to use google I could go on for days. There is a youtube video comparison a speech by obama after they took out osama bin laden that is splice with a speech by trump after they took out some terrorist dude (maybe that al bagdadhi guy or whatever). Its shocking the difference between the two. One of the speeches has some class, respect, intelligence, etc. The other sounds like how a ten year old would talk after he beat up the weakest kid on his block. He never had an approval rating over 50% for a reason.
Policy isn't the only thing that matters. We have a large government that is supposed to function as a unit to forge policy. The presidents main job imo is to look the part and act the part. To be a mouthpiece for the country. A representitave of the county. On those things he was a massive failure. Extremely embarrassing. Worst president of my lifetime without a doubt. Even though he has all the best words and knows more about everything than anyone ever.
 
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How about neither? Let’s continue to elect capable and decent human beings as leaders. We don’t have to elect disgusting pigs like Trump and MTG.
Hell I will settle for capable and qualified. I dont think a decent candidate is very likely. Gotta do some dirty stuff to get to the top (take bribes, lie, step on and over others to claw your way up)
Give me a candidate thats simply capable, qualified, intelligent, classy, well spoken, and not embarrassing. Doesn't seem like too much too ask. Oh and not a living fossil would be nice too.
 
Genuine question… now that we are 8 months into Biden’s presidency, what did Trump do policy wise that people hated so much?
Moderna had the exact coronavirus vaccine we are using today synthesized, through animal testing, and shipped out for human testing on February 24, 2020. That is before schools closed, before states closed, before more than a bare handful of people were even sick. We had the vaccine.

I blame Trump for not using the Defense Production Act to crank this stuff out and making it widely available to anyone and everyone who wanted to participate on an experimental or compassionate use basis. I know for a fact there are people out there who would have taken this experimental vaccine, waited 6 weeks, and allowed researchers to purposefully expose them to SARS-CoV-2.

If we’d known by April of 2020 how solid the Moderna vaccine was with production ramped up, the world would be a different place today. Trump had the power to do that and he didn’t. I blame him for the consequences of his inaction.
 
While we are at it lets put an age limit on presidential candidates.
How does it make sense that we as a society/country basically put everyone over 65 out to pasture or to toil as wal mart greeters yet we are cool with dudes way over retirement age holding the most important job in the entire country. Thats just plain stupid.
Look, my dad is an amazing man. Fought in vietnam, college educated, extremely intelligent and worked in a very difficult field his entire life and thrived.
He is currently 78 years old (just had a birthday in august) and no signs of senility or alzheimers. He is in great shape for a man his age (still lifts weighs daily and walks 5 miles daily). So physically and mentally he is at the top of his game for his age. But he is 78 years old. No way in hell should he be president. His hearing is shot, he forgets why he walked into a room, he is out of touch with the younger generation, he takes great pleasure in having a good (and rare) bowel movement.

Lets stop electing dinosaurs. Lets all come together on this one thing. Republican or democrat. At the next primaries of each respective parties presidential candidates lets try to vote for someone under 65 and have a couple of people at least close to their best (their prime if you will) running for the highest office in the country.

excellent post.
 
I hope you’re not implying Biden is capable and decent.
Of course he is. He’s managing to thread the needle of keeping a big diverse coalition together. His policies over the past 7 months have benefitted the majority of America. I’m hopeful in the upcoming months we can deal with voting rights and immigration reform. I would’ve preferred that over infrastructure first. But if it gets done then that’s all that matters to me.
 
While we are at it lets put an age limit on presidential candidates.
How does it make sense that we as a society/country basically put everyone over 65 out to pasture or to toil as wal mart greeters yet we are cool with dudes way over retirement age holding the most important job in the entire country. Thats just plain stupid.
Look, my dad is an amazing man. Fought in vietnam, college educated, extremely intelligent and worked in a very difficult field his entire life and thrived.
He is currently 78 years old (just had a birthday in august) and no signs of senility or alzheimers. He is in great shape for a man his age (still lifts weighs daily and walks 5 miles daily). So physically and mentally he is at the top of his game for his age. But he is 78 years old. No way in hell should he be president. His hearing is shot, he forgets why he walked into a room, he is out of touch with the younger generation, he takes great pleasure in having a good (and rare) bowel movement.

Lets stop electing dinosaurs. Lets all come together on this one thing. Republican or democrat. At the next primaries of each respective parties presidential candidates lets try to vote for someone under 65 and have a couple of people at least close to their best (their prime if you will) running for the highest office in the country.
It would help if young people actually participated in the democratic process. Boomers as a percentage have typically tripled that of younger voters. College, foot game, and tee vee are more important. I’m in my mid 30s and I’m a child at many of these caucus meetings.
 
It would help if young people actually participated in the democratic process. Boomers as a percentage have typically tripled that of younger voters. College, foot game, and tee vee are more important. I’m in my mid 30s and I’m a child at many of these caucus meetings.
Fair enough. So let's make it a requirement that a candidate is under 65.
 
Genuine question… now that we are 8 months into Biden’s presidency, what did Trump do policy wise that people hated so much?
I'm reframing this. I really like what Biden is doing. Trump isn't president anymore.

The Good:
Health Care:
I like how Biden is defending the ACA, not trying to dismantle it. I never understood (other than racism and hatred of Obama) why Trump wanted to take away health care from people. So maintaining the ACA is good for me. Unlike some people, I don't think you should be ineligible for health care because you have pre-existing conditions or cannot afford health care.


Covid Policy: I like the Biden administration's covid policy. It hasn't been perfect but it's been nice to see adequate testing and vaccine distribution. I'd like to see more mandates and greater vaccination distribution to African nations. It's also nice to not have a president make stupid suggestions, like injecting lysol or witholding valuable PPE because governors aren't kissing the ring.
I mean, Biden gave Florida aid while DeathSantis went on an anti-Biden pro-covid campaign tour. That would've never happened under Trump:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/11/politics/florida-ventilators-desantis/index.html

Children: I really like cutting childhood poverty in half.

Infrastructure: Remember how this was an ongoing joke for four years? Trump always talked about infrastructure and because he has the attention span of a squirrel, always lost sight of "Infrastructure Week" by shutting down the government or having a meltdown calling Haiti a "******** country." I like passing trillions of new infrastructure. Anyone stuck in Salt Lake bottlenecks, seen our inversion, or is subjected to the crappy Comcast Internet knows how important updating our infrastructure is. The reconciliation bill which provides more money to combat climate change and raise taxes on the wealthy is very important also.

Immigration/Asylum: I like not banning Muslims and I also believe strongly that we shouldn't be abusing children to scare people from seeking asylum here. Is the border situation perfect? No, but there's a huge difference between the system processing (slowly) asylum seekers and purposely creating a humanitarian crisis to scare people from coming here. Ultimately, this situation needs to be addressed by Congress by making it easier for people to legally immigrate here.

Foreign Policy: Isn't it refreshing to have a President stand with our western allies and not kissing up to pigs like Putin and Kim? Isn't it nice to have a President who doesn't throw our IC under the bus in favor of Putin's lies?

The Bad:
Voting Rights:
This should have been the administration's top priority after covid. They desperately need to get the Senate to blow the filibuster and pass voting rights. Otherwise, this will be a massive failure that could in the long-term damage our democracy. Biden said that Republican attacks on voting rights is our greatest threat since the Civil War... Well, his reaction to this threat certainly has been underwhelming.

Immigration: I think we need to make this a priority after voting rights. We need to pass the DREAM act and reform our immigration system.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...rats-must-make-much-clearer-case-immigration/

Humanitarian Rights: Biden has been better than Trump with garbage like Kim and Putin. But that doesn't mean he couldn't do better. I don't believe in having low standards. I'd like to see Democrats really stand up for human rights. If that means going after Putin's money or ending our arms deals with the Saudis? Then so be it. Either we're for human rights and democracy or not. I'm tired of tiptoeing around human trash cans like Putin. **** Putin, Orban, Kim, etc.

I believe liberal democracy is worth fighting for:

PS Notice the difference between what liberals and Trumpers stand for. We believe in actual issues. We believe in human rights. We're not merely "against" what the other side is doing. We're not merely focused on judges and #owninthecons. And probably most of all, we aren't afraid to call out our own. Think back to all the times any Republican on this entire board criticized Orange God King. You can probably count on one hand the number of times that happened.

Please keep this in mind next time someone says, "bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe!"
 
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so what happens if the powers that be decide to remove Joe or he decides to resign ?? As in who gets to choose who steps in, is it automatically the VP ?
 
so what happens if the powers that be decide to remove Joe or he decides to resign ?? As in who gets to choose who steps in, is it automatically the VP ?
I think it's automatically the VP but I haven't heard anything about him being removed or resigning
 
I think it's automatically the VP but I haven't heard anything about him being removed or resigning
I guess Trumpers can always fantasize?

The truth is they’re staring down the barrel of 8 years of Democratic governing from the executive branch. The Biden administration hasn’t been perfect. But I haven’t seen anything from Republicans since Jan 6 to indicate that they have any solutions to any current problems. If anything, they’ve become worse. They’re the party of insurrection, covid, racism, and rampant authoritarianism. Biden maybe “only” have a 56 percent approval right now. That’s still 6+ pts higher than Trump ever had.

Good luck with that Trump/DeathSantis ticket in 2024. And the more covid ravages the south, the more we’re reminded how Republicans just can’t govern.





Is Florida tired from all of this winning yet? Not sure if threatening funding for teachers and schools unless they drop mask mandates is a winning strategy. But then again, I’m not a dumbass Trumper.
 
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Biden maybe “only” have a 56 percent approval right now. That’s still 6+ pts higher than Trump ever had.
Thriller can't see anything I write. I open this question up to those he can see: Does anyone want to tell him? Or should we just let Thriller be happy in thinking things are going swimmingly? I vote we don't tell him. I don't hold any animosity toward Thriller and I only brought it up because I have a thing when people quote statistics wrong.
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Biden maybe “only” have a 56 percent approval right now. That’s still 6+ pts higher than Trump ever had.
Actually, per FiveThirtyEight, he's just under 50%, mostly due to the Afghanistan issues and his extremely poor reaction to it. This image I literally just took off there 2 minutes ago:

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Actually, per FiveThirtyEight, he's just under 50%, mostly due to the Afghanistan issues and his extremely poor reaction to it. This image I literally just took off there 2 minutes ago:

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Which includes outliers, like Rasmussen. Most reputable polls show hes in the low to mid 50s. A net positive.

Afghanistan will blow over. We won’t be talking about it by the start of September and certainly by mid September.

Btw, ya gotta love the context free way our “liberal media” has framed Afghanistan. Inviting clowns like Panetta, Bolton, and Rove on to describe what went wrong with Afghanistan. Might as well ask John Wilkes Booth about his opinion on the civil war and lincoln. Sadly, our media just does a horrendous job of informing the Public. They haven’t learned anything since 2016.
 
Which includes outliers, like Rasmussen. Most reputable polls show hes in the low to mid 50s. A net positive.

Afghanistan will blow over. We won’t be talking about it by the start of September and certainly by mid September.
But they didn't change their methodology since before this, from back when they were showing him in the mid 50s. And they adjust their results based on the polls historical biases - although whether this snapshot from the front page reflects that or not, I'm not absolutely certain. I think it does, but not sure.

He has dipped, that's undeniable - but not to Trump levels, that is also undeniable.

***EDIT*** Let me also make clear: I don't really give two ****s about a president's approval rating, particularly not now, when just wearing the wrong color suit gets you ran from pillory to post. We're so polarized as a nation people wouldn't approve of someone on the other side if it was literally a matter of life and death.
 
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But they didn't change their methodology since before this, from back when they were showing him in the mid 50s. And they adjust their results based on the polls historical biases - although whether this snapshot from the front page reflects that or not, I'm not absolutely certain. I think it does, but not sure.

He has dipped, that's undeniable - but not to Trump levels, that is also undeniable.

***EDIT*** Let me also make clear: I don't really give two ****s about a president's approval rating, particularly not now, when just wearing the wrong color suit gets you ran from pillory to post. We're so polarized as a nation people wouldn't approve of someone on the other side if it was literally a matter of life and death.
Doesn’t Biden’s fluidic approval rating somewhat refute this?
 
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