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I have no problems keeping my claims straight. I acknowledged a 21% reduction in infection against the original COVID for students.
I did misread that. You said " You can pretty much cut the 37% and 21% in half with Delta." An 18%/10% reduction is still significant.

Chicago has a mask mandate in their schools. She died. We obviously don't agree but I believe that sentiment to be selling false hope.
Every reduction matters. Of course, you have to weigh that against the costs of reduction measures. I'm still waiting to hear from you what the gain is from dropping mask requirements.

I disagree. I think people can change their minds. Sadly it sometimes takes the death of someone close to them for their eyes to open, but people can be reached. What I don't think helps is saying "[masks] possibly prevents her from getting covid19". I believe the only way through this is getting the vaccine or getting sick and the latter path is risky.
The vaccine is absolutely the most effective way. However, just like when you wear a condom, it's always good for these to be a second method of protection, so here vaccination is extremely important, but we can do even better.
 
Vaccinate. Lest we reach 75 million….


Hmmm….Figures cited below are from a study published in July, 2021… Hmmm…


The study, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, builds on research which has found the number of reported cases “represents only a fraction of the estimated total number of infections”. It has important implications for how many Americans need to be vaccinated to stop outbreaks.

Based on analysis of that data, researchers found as many as 65 million Americans may have been infected.

(Edit: and yes, I did have one buffoon poster in mind when posting this. Said buffoon poster once said, exactly one year ago today, “I ask for proof, when there are anonymous sources, I then provide my own proof with actual human sources. I challenge the crazy idea that exponential growth will somehow make 75-150,000,000 Americans sick when it's mathematically improbable, almost impossible”. Well, I do not expect the official toll to reach 75 million, but unofficially, we may be inching toward that figure. And the virus may yet present a nightmare variant. I hope it is not Mu, and I hope we can tamp down this pandemic).
 
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quite a few papers are now saying herd immunity ain't gonna happen and most likely Covid is endemic and we'll all get it at some stage as it slowly mutates to become more infectious but most likely less lethal.
 
If anybody sees Red, he like this type of Tabloid material so you might want to share it to him and him only.

THIS IS A LIE.... THIS IS MISINFORMATION... Propaganda by definition(I had to bold that out so y'all wouldn't share it)....Sad that Democrats need me to point that out



"Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months. NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose," the statement reads.

All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support."
 
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quite a few papers are now saying herd immunity ain't gonna happen and most likely Covid is endemic and we'll all get it at some stage as it slowly mutates to become more infectious but most likely less lethal.
This is pretty much what I have felt might in fact be the best case end game. We’ll see I guess. Interestingly, Israel just announced they would be offering a 4th shot! In fact, some of their medical authorities are now suggesting it will be likely that boosters would be needed about every 5 months from here on out. That sure would act as an accelerant in the states, where the vaccine component of our cold civil war is concerned, since it’s obvious the vaccines have become a battle line in our culture wars.
 
I'm still waiting to hear from you what the gain is from dropping mask requirements.
The gain is that kids like this girl may be alive.


The 10% efficacy of a mask, if the protection is even that high with a cloth mask on a child against the Delta variant which new research is casting doubt on, is not the equivalent of a 95%+ efficacy vaccine. Cloth masks are essentially useless in protecting a kid against the Delta variant but they provide adults an excuse to not get their kids vaccinated because they wrongly believe in cloth masks.
 
The gain is that kids like this girl may be alive.


The 10% efficacy of a mask, if the protection is even that high with a cloth mask on a child against the Delta variant which new research is casting doubt on, is not the equivalent of a 95%+ efficacy vaccine. Cloth masks are essentially useless in protecting a kid against the Delta variant but they provide adults an excuse to not get their kids vaccinated because they wrongly believe in cloth masks.
Wait a minute. Why would a lack of mask mandates have saved that girls life? Did it say in the article that the only reason she didn't vaccinated was because she thought wearing a mask was better than a vaccine and so she figured the mask would save her life? I didn't see that quote in the article. (Admittedly I was slim reading so maybe I missed it.
In fact, from the article: Dr. Brandon Webb, an Intermountain Healthcare infectious diseases physician, said the death of a second school-aged youth in the state shows why Utahns should be vaccinated and continue to take precautions against spreading the virus, such as WEARING MASKS, social distancing and avoiding large gatherings.
 
I love all these Trumpers who refuse to get vaccinated because they don’t know what’s in the vaccine and have concerns for it’s long-term effects while consuming hydroxy and some horse dewormer ****.

Misinformation... Not surprised Thriller and Fish fell for such blatant stupidity. Thriller called others idiots 4 times on this page yet fell for blatant propaganda that the dumbest of true idiots should've figure out. Fish it's just natural for him to fall for stuff like this, it's hard to be too hard on him because he doesn't know any better.

In an article published Aug. 23, 2021, about people taking livestock medicine to try to treat coronavirus, The Associated Press erroneously reported based on information provided by the Mississippi Department of Health that 70% of recent calls to the Mississippi Poison Control Center were from people who had ingested ivermectin to try to treat COVID-19. State Epidemiologist Dr. Paul Byers said Wednesday the number of calls to poison control about ivermectin was about 2%
 
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