Coronavirus

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Brown University’s Dr. Jha has been a very familiar face on virtually all the network and cable news outlets throughout the pandemic:

3 Tools to Combat COVID Could Limit Need for Masks, Brown University Doctor Says

Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of Brown University’s Public School of Health, laid out four tools to tame the coronavirus pandemic. Jha broke it down in a thread on Twitter this weekend, noting that, “We have all the tools we need to end this pandemic.” The four tools Jha outlined are vaccines, rapid...

www.nbcboston.com

The four tools Jha outlined are vaccines, rapid tests, improving indoor air and masks, and he said that using the first three correctly would mean that the last wouldn't need to be used much.

“If we deploy first 3 aggressively and smartly, we need only use 4th sparingly," Jha wrote.

In a community with high vaccination rates and ubiquitous testing, infection rates would be low, Jha said.

"In that context, would you go to an indoor concert unmasked if everyone was vaccinated, everyone had (a) negative antigen test prior to (the) concert and (the) concert hall had great ventilation/filtration? I would," Jha wrote.

 

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Wait a minute. Why would a lack of mask mandates have saved that girls life?

I don't know for certain that it would have saved her life, but it is possible. The problem with mask mandates is that people believe that even if they haven't taken the vaccine at least they are doing something. It may not be the vaccine but it is something. It is bad messaging and I think it is going to get people killed. The reality is that EVERYONE is going to get COVID at some point. It appears there is no herd immunity with SARS-CoV-2. There was an LGBT Pride celebration in Massachusetts where all attendees were vaccinated with proof and it was still a super-spreader event.

If you think getting the vaccine means you will never get COVID, you are wrong. If you think wearing a mask and practicing social distancing will means you never get COVID, you are wrong. All of the ideas we had earlier in the pandemic about herd immunity or a vaccine eradicating SARS-CoV-2 are proving to be false. Now that we have this knowledge it is important to communicate the vaccine helps your immune system fight off an infection. When you get infected after you've been vaccinated it is like having a cold. It sucks but the vast majority get over it.

The old prevention messaging leaves an opening for anti-vaxxers to claim the vaccines don't work because people are still getting infected and for kids to die because their parents thought they were doing something with masking/social distancing. The whole idea of prevention has to go. There is no prevention. Everyone is going to get it. The messaging has to switch to one of how best to prepare your body to recover from your inevitable infection. Either you can get it when you're not vaccinated and hope your immune system is up to the task or you can get vaccinated to greatly improve the chances your immune system is up to the task.

 

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The reality is that EVERYONE is going to get COVID at some point.

This message sucks to high heaven!! Might be true, though. Begone Long Haul, begone Long Haul, lol. Persist, quality of life, persist, lol….

 

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If anybody sees Red, he like this type of Tabloid material so you might want to share it to him and him only.

THIS IS A LIE.... THIS IS MISINFORMATION... Propaganda by definition(I had to bold that out so y'all wouldn't share it)....Sad that Democrats need me to point that out

That was indeed misinformation. It's true that ivermectin overdose cases in 2021 through August have more than quadrupled the total for the entire year of 2019, and that cases in August alone doubled those of July, but there is no evidence of hospitals being unable to treat these patients.

 

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The 10% efficacy of a mask, if the protection is even that high with a cloth mask on a child against the Delta variant which new research is casting doubt on, is not the equivalent of a 95%+ efficacy vaccine.

1) No one is claiming that it is.
2) There is a very large degree of overlap between the anti-maskers and the anti-vaxxers.
3) Removing mask requirements does not mean these people will get vaccinated.

Cloth masks are essentially useless in protecting a kid against the Delta variant but they provide adults an excuse to not get their kids vaccinated because they wrongly believe in cloth masks.

Your take on this is founded in a largely fantastical understanding of human nature.

 

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Misinformation...

It's true that 70% is a ridiculous number. It's also true that overdoses on ivermectin are increasing at a ridiculous rate. An honest person would note both sides of that.

 

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The reality is that EVERYONE is going to get COVID at some point.

That may be the stupidest take I have ever seen from you. For any communicable disease that has ever existed, including coronavirus diseases, some percentage of the population has been immune even without vaccines, and many more will be with the vaccines.

Had you said, "everyone is going to be exposed to the covid19 virus", that would be much closer to the truth. Even "almost everyone will test positive for covid19 at some point" doesn't seem entirely out of line. However, the vast majority of people who keep to the vaccination schedule will not get covid19.

The problem with mask mandates is that people believe that even if they haven't taken the vaccine at least they are doing something. It may not be the vaccine but it is something.

Wearing a mask is doing something. It's not enough, but it is something.

 

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It's true that 70% is a ridiculous number. It's also true that overdoses on ivermectin are increasing at a ridiculous rate. An honest person would note both sides of that.

Why am I responsible for fixing Thriller and Fishs gullible lie that the dumbest of dumb knew was propaganda? Why is that my fault?

I view ivermectin the same as the vaccine. Personal choice. If people OD on it, that's on them. I don't feel much remorse.

 

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Why am I responsible for fixing Thriller and Fishs gullible lie that the dumbest of dumb knew was propaganda? Why is that my fault?

You weren't but you chose to "fix" it anyhow by engaging in opposite misinformation.

I view ivermectin the same as the vaccine. Personal choice. If people OD on it, that's on them. I don't feel much remorse.

Noted.

 

[Ron Mexico]

There is no prevention. Everyone is going to get it. The messaging has to switch to one of how best to prepare your body to recover from your inevitable infection.

That's definitely not true, plenty of people won't get it. Plus, this take is also pretty USA centric. Plenty of other countries have it under control. If every country closed borders and travel within, contract traced/quarantined positive cases, and vaccinated it would go away quickly.

But I agree with the sentiment. The vast majority of people will catch it, and possibly multiple times. It seems unlikely to go away or get under control worldwide in the foreseeable future.

 

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This message sucks to high heaven!! Might be true, though.

 

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I'm reading on how Australia is rounding people up and putting them in quarantine camps. Hotels and such where they can't even open their doors. Personally are understandably losing their mind. This is
absolutely terrifying.