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[LogGrad98]

Al-O-Meter is impressively sticking to the taking points. His posts read like a series of bulletpoints; and any value that might reorder his senses slides off his back like water off a duck.

If being a foot soldier was impressive—independent of a cause—then this would be impressive by Internet Dude standards.

It's impressive by storm trooper standards.

 

[LogGrad98]

"Summarily reject" sounds like you're pretty sure. I already have a bet with One Brow on this. Would you also like to take that bet? The arbiter is the Supreme Court and the wager is to allow me to pick your avatar image for 30 days. Seeing how obviously wrong my opinion is, wouldn't you love to have everything I say discredited for 30 days by making my words appear next to some silly image you decide on?

See that's the difference between you and me. I couldn't care less if you are discredited or not. My self-esteem is not tied to being right in internet message boards. That sounds like you are trying really hard to put yourself on the pedestal of arbiter of all truth. You need to find worth elsewhere my friend. Internet fame is fleeting.

 

[LogGrad98]

He didn't say he thinks it's constitutional or that the mandate will go forward. Which I believe is the bet you have with one brow.
He just said he is fine with mandates that save lives and he doesn't believe this mandate will lead us to some horrible final destination.
At least that's what I got from his post.

This. The wisdom of @fishbrow on full display. This is exactly the scenario that executive orders are meant for. Handling a singular event that constitutes a threat to the republic and requires decisive action. Congress can pass legislation that negates an executive order if they feel it is overreach, or they can simply refuse to fund it. Balances remain secure. The biggest threat to this is in single party rule.

 

[One Brow]

"Summarily reject" sounds like you're pretty sure. I already have a bet with One Brow on this. Would you also like to take that bet? The arbiter is the Supreme Court and the wager is to allow me to pick your avatar image for 30 days. Seeing how obviously wrong my opinion is, wouldn't you love to have everything I say discredited for 30 days by making my words appear next to some silly image you decide on?

Our bet is whether OSHA will come up with a method of enforcement that is Constitutional according to SCOTUS. No slippery slope, no tyranny involved.

 

[NAOS]

I honestly have no idea why someone would feel they’re worth paying attention to—in a political conversation of any type—when they clearly lack any acknowledgement of colonial history AND climate science. Well... I can come with some ideas, but they all begin by assigning these people some kind of delusion/denialism. Is there another way?

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I honestly have no idea why someone would feel they’re worth paying attention to—in a political conversation of any type—when they clearly lack any acknowledgement of colonial history AND climate science.

I think you misunderstand. I fully acknowledge climate science. The planet has warmed and human activities are mostly to blame for that warming. There is no denial but I do look at the other side of the balance and see in the last 70 years of Pax Americana, the average life expectancy of all people on Earth has gone from 45 to 73.5.

The majority of people on Earth are now middle class or rich for the first time in human history.

something of enormous global significance is happening almost without notice. For the first time since agriculture-based civilization began 10,000 years ago, the majority of humankind is no longer poor or vulnerable to falling into poverty.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/futu...f-the-world-is-now-middle-class-or-wealthier/

Even the Earth is greener and teeming with life

Carbon Dioxide Fertilization Greening Earth, Study Finds

From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth

I don't deny the globe has become warmer, I just think it is a price well worth not being like we were 70 years ago when the German Nationalist Socialists were committing genocide while starting a World War, and the Soviet Marxists were committing genocide in their glorious revolution, and the Chinese Communists where committing genocide in their Great Leap Forward. I think freedom and the economic prosperity that accompanies it is a great thing and am not apologetic for that belief.

 

[LogGrad98]

I think you misunderstand. I fully acknowledge climate science. The planet has warmed and human activities are mostly to blame for that warming. There is no denial but I do look at the other side of the balance and see in the last 70 years of Pax Americana, the average life expectancy of all people on Earth has gone from 45 to 73.5.

The majority of people on Earth are now middle class or rich for the first time in human history.


Even the Earth is greener and teeming with life

I don't deny the globe has become warmer, I just think it is a price well worth not being like we were 70 years ago when the German Nationalist Socialists were committing genocide while starting a World War, and the Soviet Marxists were committing genocide in their glorious revolution, and the Chinese Communists where committing genocide in their Great Leap Forward. I think freedom is a great thing and am not apologetic for that belief.

Remember, most life expectancy numbers are skewed due to infant and childhood mortality. We have greatly improved in that area, whereas the actual years expected of people who survive childhood have changed far less dramatically. In fact, adjusted for infant mortality, life expectancy has been in the 60-year range for 2 centuries or more and in the 70-year range for most of the 20th century. But it has definitely improved the most after the industrial revolution.

 

[NAOS]

I think you misunderstand. I fully acknowledge climate science. The planet has warmed and human activities are mostly to blame for that warming. There is no denial but I do look at the other side of the balance and see in the last 70 years of Pax Americana, the average life expectancy of all people on Earth has gone from 45 to 73.5.

The majority of people on Earth are now middle class or rich for the first time in human history.


Even the Earth is greener and teeming with life

I don't deny the globe has become warmer, I just think it is a price well worth not being like we were 70 years ago when the German Nationalist Socialists were committing genocide while starting a World War, and the Soviet Marxists were committing genocide in their glorious revolution, and the Chinese Communists where committing genocide in their Great Leap Forward. I think freedom and the economic prosperity that accompanies it is a great thing and am not apologetic for that belief.

Sorry, but your attempt here at acknowledging the transformations of the climate (and the range of possible consequences) is laughably inadequate in several ways.

Also, A+ for just skipping over the history of colonialism again. That’s perfectly on-brand.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

A+ for just skipping over the history of colonialism again. That’s perfectly on-brand.

You mean the history of literally every people on Earth? I don't see it as a moral failing for anyone not to take personal responsibility due to the Clovis people being wiped out by a genetically different people 9,000 years ago, or for any other colonization events perpetrated by someone else, doubly so if that someone else is long dead.

I find that whole concept of assigning that sort of guilt to be incredibly racist. I see it as an impressive piece of mental gymnastics done in attempt to turn a thing that I weigh as morally repugnant (grouping or judging people by skin color or ethnicity) into a faux virtue (assigning culpability for an event to all members of a collective regardless of if the supposedly guilty were even alive when the event happened). I think we would be better off if everyone would see all people as individual people. I'm saddened that this is now a controversial view.

 

[NAOS]

You mean the history of literally every people on Earth? I don't see it as a moral failing for anyone not to take personal responsibility due to the Clovis people being wiped out by a genetically different people 9,000 years ago, or for any other colonization events perpetrated by someone else, doubly so if that someone else is long dead.

I find that whole concept to be incredibly racist. I see it as an impressive piece of mental gymnastics done in attempt to turn a thing that I weigh as morally repugnant (grouping or judging people by skin color or ethnicity) into a faux virtue (assigning culpability for an event to all members of a collective regardless of if the supposedly guilty were even alive when the event happened). I think we would be better off if everyone would see all people as individual people. I'm saddened that this is now a controversial view.

Lol.

 

[NAOS]

Talking points, braughs.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

No one is being forced into vaccination.

However, I am indeed a patriot, and did my patriotic duty by getting vaccinated.

You're no fun. Maybe Loggrad will be the only spokesperson for the forced penetration crowd.