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[FalseFlagg K]

This is untrue
Also, did you know that getting vaccinated makes a person less likely to get infected with covid and less likely to spread it to others?
Therefore if kids get vaccinated then less people are getting covid and less people are spreading it. That would mean less people getting sick, hospitalized, and dying.
(This is all pretty basic, obvious, common sense stuff that I shouldn't have to point out. But here we are)

I’m sorry dude you are just wrong. Every virologist, general practitioner, medical specialist I’ve heard interviewed and papers I’ve read absolutely say that. I don’t know who you’re listening to but healthy non-overweight kids Covid is not a threat at all.

And define *less likely ?? Exactly. With references. And the effect over time of such boosted protection.

Each to their own but I think using kids to try to achieve herd immunity is insane. Kids future should always be the priority and the simple fact is there are no long term studies on any potential effects on kids from these vaccines. And there are uncommon but serious reactions.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

I'm glad Victoria cares about the lives of it's people so much. That's cool.

Lol you have no idea mate. Seriously. We’ve been in harsh lockdown including curfews for the most days anywhere in the world. All in the name of trying to maintain Zero or close to zero Covid cases. Our youth suicides, bankruptcies and lives destroyed by lockdowns have gone so far past any loss of life from Covid it’s ridiculous. Under state of emergency legislation we legally have no right for protest and any protest marches have been met with frightening police brutality including shooting peacefully protesting unarmed citizens with rubber bullets.

So care about it’s citizens ??? Laughable. This is all about control and abusing its citizens to achieve an outcome regardless of the damage caused by a corrupt tyrant. Don’t ****ing talk to me about this dickhead caring about people

 

[fishonjazz]

I’m sorry dude you are just wrong. Every virologist, general practitioner, medical specialist I’ve heard interviewed and papers I’ve read absolutely say that. I don’t know who you’re listening to but healthy non-overweight kids Covid is not a threat at all.

And define *less likely ?? Exactly. With references. And the effect over time of such boosted protection.

Each to their own but I think using kids to try to achieve herd immunity is insane. Kids future should always be the priority and the simple fact is there are no long term studies on any potential effects on kids from these vaccines. And there are uncommon but serious reactions.

I'm not wrong. There have been healthy kids in the hospital with covid. That's just a fact.
Less likely is pretty easy to define. If someone who is vaccinated is in the area of someone with covid they are less likely to get infected with covid than someone who is unvaccinated.

We have been immunizing children for a long time. You might think it's insane but it's been happening for decades.

 

[fishonjazz]

Lol you have no idea mate. Seriously. We’ve been in harsh lockdown including curfews for the most days anywhere in the world. All in the name of trying to maintain Zero or close to zero Covid cases. Our youth suicides, bankruptcies and lives destroyed by lockdowns have gone so far past any loss of life from Covid it’s ridiculous. Under state of emergency legislation we legally have no right for protest and any protest marches have been met with frightening police brutality including shooting peacefully protesting unarmed citizens with rubber bullets.

So care about it’s citizens ??? Laughable. This is all about control and abusing its citizens to achieve an outcome regardless of the damage caused by a corrupt tyrant. Don’t ****ing talk to me about this dickhead caring about people

What is the outcome the corrupt tyrant is trying to achieve?

 

[FalseFlagg K]

I'm not wrong. There have been healthy kids in the hospital with covid. That's just a fact.
Less likely is pretty easy to define. If someone who is vaccinated is in the area of someone with covid they are less likely to get infected with covid than someone who is unvaccinated.

We have been immunizing children for a long time. You might think it's insane but it's been happening for decades.

Lol. With vaccines that have been tested for long periods of time. For diseases that have a high level of horrific consequences. There are healthy kids in hospital with all sorts of health issues in small percentages. The facts are for absolutely nearly all kids it is a sniffle. A small amount go to hospital. Very very rare for health non overweight kids t ok be seriously sick with Covid. The risk of myocarditis or other reaction is higher.

You have zero nuance in your thinking, Covid is not a binary issue, it effects wildly vary depending on the category of person. Can you tell me top 4 risk factors for a bad Covid outcome ???? Specifically.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

What is the outcome the corrupt tyrant is trying to achieve?

He’s trying to have the fewest Covid numbers. At any cost. That cost which is so far beyond anything he’s achieved. And it’s all for one purpose .. his political capital. Because he’s a dumb Marxist Flog. Everyone here knows it. He doesn’t give a **** about the lives lost to suicide and lives & livelihoods destroyed.

 

[fishonjazz]

Lol. With vaccines that have been tested for long periods of time. For diseases that have a high level of horrific consequences. There are healthy kids in hospital with all sorts of health issues in small percentages. The facts are for absolutely nearly all kids it is a sniffle. A small amount go to hospital. Very very rare for health non overweight kids t ok be seriously sick with Covid. The risk of myocarditis or other reaction is higher.

You have zero nuance in your thinking, Covid is not a binary issue, it effects wildly vary depending on the category of person. Can you tell me top 4 risk factors for a bad Covid outcome ???? Specifically

Well there ya go. Now we are getting the truth. If your originally post was something like "healthy kids rarely get sick" then I wouldn't have even commented. Just helping you be accurate and you're welcome.
How long were the vaccines from the past tested for before they were administered? How many died while waiting for the testing? How many are we cool with letting die? Are we cool with fat kids dying?
I can tell you the number 1 risk factor for a bad covid outcome. Dont get vaccinated.

 

[fishonjazz]

He’s trying to have the fewest Covid numbers. At any cost. That cost which is so far beyond anything he’s achieved. And it’s all for one purpose .. his political capital. Because he’s a dumb Marxist Flog. Everyone here knows it. He doesn’t give a **** about the lives lost to suicide and lives & livelihoods destroyed.

So he wants the people to hate him and not re-elect him and he wants less money? Or do you guys even elect your "president?" or pay taxes? I have no idea how its done over there.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

Well there ya go. Now we are getting the truth. If your originally post was something like "healthy kids rarely get sick" then I wouldn't have even commented. Just helping you be accurate and you're welcome.
How long were the vaccines from the past tested for before they were administered? How many died while waiting for the testing? How many are we cool with letting die? Are we cool with fat kids dying?
I can tell you the number 1 risk factor for a bad covid outcome. Dont get vaccinated.

Healthy kids so rarely get sick. Way less than for other common things like pneumonia. And they very rarely die. You’re just being disingenuous. And the smug “you’re welcome” reflects very poorly on you.

Fat kids should get vaccinated because they have an underlying health condition. It’s not rocket science ?? Likewise those with high blood pressure, auto immune disease and other such conditions. Because any slight risk with a vaccine is outweighed by the increased protection for that specific person Statistically .. risk / reward. Get it ??

If you’re going to play that game how many people are you ok with letting die from vaccine complications ? How many suicides by teens depressed from being locked up are you ok with ?? Because we’ve had something like 500 more than normal thru this period. And on the Australian governments own drug administration body’s website there are around 500 deaths following Covid vaccines. So if you can actually think there is something to weigh up ?

And no the number 1 risk factor is age. By so far it’s not funny. Dementia. Cardiovascular compromise. Obesity.
Double vaxxed ppl are still dying with these conditions. Vaccines for ppl over 40, overweight, any underlying health issue particularly hypertension & metabolic compromise absolutely . I’m a healthy very fit 50 year old and I’ve had a vacc But healthy kids so not specifically need it. Unless you’re happy to take whatever small risk of the unknown it is to try to achieve some weird hope of herd immunity which isn’t going to happen. And to me the potential risk and unknown of a new vaccine isn’t worth it.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

So he wants the people to hate him and not re-elect him and he wants less money? Or do you guys even elect your "president?" or pay taxes? I have no idea how its done over there.

Long story but initially his harsh measures were quite popular and that is all he saw. However he got caught out with giving government contracts to mates which resulted in a big Covid outbreak and then doubled down on the lockdowns and draconian measures to cover up his corruption, lied under oath at an inquiry and since then his popularity has plummeted. But he’s refused to change tactics because he’s a bloody minded political animal

 

[fishonjazz]

Healthy kids so rarely get sick. Way less than for other common things like pneumonia. And they very rarely die. You’re just being disingenuous. And the smug “you’re welcome” reflects very poorly on you.

Fat kids should get vaccinated because they have an underlying health condition. It’s not rocket science ?? Likewise those with high blood pressure, auto immune disease and other such conditions. Because any slight risk with a vaccine is outweighed by the increased protection for that specific person Statistically .. risk / reward. Get it ??

If you’re going to play that game how many people are you ok with letting die from vaccine complications ? How many suicides by teens depressed from being locked up are you ok with ?? Because we’ve had something like 500 more than normal thru this period. And on the Australian governments own drug administration body’s website there are around 500 deaths following Covid vaccines. So if you can actually think there is something to weigh up ?

And no the number 1 risk factor is age. By so far it’s not funny. Dementia. Cardiovascular compromise. Obesity.
Double vaxxed ppl are still dying with these conditions. Vaccines for ppl over 40, overweight, any underlying health issue particularly hypertension & metabolic compromise absolutely . I’m a healthy very fit 50 year old and I’ve had a vacc But healthy kids so not specifically need it. Unless you’re happy to take whatever small risk of the unknown it is to try to achieve some weird hope of herd immunity which isn’t going to happen. And to me the potential risk and unknown of a new vaccine isn’t worth it.

I disagree about age being the number 1 factor. We used to have hella old people dying. Then they started getting hella vaccinated. Now they aren't dying so much even though they are still old. Samesies for obesity etc.
Certainly things like age and obesity are huge factors but the biggest factor is if you are vaccinated.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

I disagree about age being the number 1 factor. We used to have hella old people dying. Then they started getting hella vaccinated. Now they aren't dying so much even though they are still old. Samesies for obesity etc.
Certainly things like age and obesity are huge factors but the biggest factor is if you are vaccinated.

Might be different there than here but will agree to disagree.