Eric Paschall is not who I thought he was

[KqWIN]

I don't think Jazz will go small 5 unless they have to match defensively. Screens and Rolls having gravity is what Jazz live off.

May be if teams try to take away the screens like Clippers did against us but then again we could go Gobert/Paschall with the way Paschall defending and attacking the glass and forces teams off small ball.

I really need to see more and think. I haven't been interested much this season.


Jazz also have been doing different things defensively. I have seen some hard hedges that I don't think are the answers but we will see.

Paschall would be a beast in the screen and roll game as a 5. He would be like Harrell with a spaced floor.

Defense/rebounding is the much bigger question. Whiteside and Paschall both have their strengths and weaknesses there. I don't love the idea of matching up to small ball because the whole point of doing that is you can matchup 1-5 but the Jazz have issues matching up 1-4 already. I do like how it forces the other defenders to engage and be more active, however. It may not be effective as a whole, but it builds better defensive habits.

 

[KqWIN]

There are like 2 minutes of non-garbage time per night from Butler you can swap out somewhere... cut Whiteside's minutes by 3-4 minutes... Royce/Bojan donate 3-4 minutes. Paschall gets 8 minutes, Rudy Gay picks up 16, Whiteside drops to 12 minutes... or 13ish and Rudy shaves a minute or two. We experiment with small ball for a few minutes a night.

There is a little juice to squeeze and then there are going to be injuries and minutes ramp up then. Keep everyone fresh as hell and hopefully engaged.

I don't know what players actually prefer, but I'd rather see a guy sit one game and play the next instead of chopping up the rotation and finding minutes here or there.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I don't know what players actually prefer, but I'd rather see a guy sit one game and play the next instead of chopping up the rotation and finding minutes here or there.

Me too... my worry is Quin has had such a hard time with managing this at times. He seems to push too hard or be too rigid. We are close to 100%... does Quin have the discipline to sit Mike and/or Joe on the backend of the back to back coming up? Those are big games... do we want to test ourselves or hamstring ourselves in 1 or both? What if you decide to sit Mike and Joe in Milwaukee then lose the Chicago game?

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I was very excited when I heard we traded for him, and thought he’d be better than most thought. I just remember researching his second year, he went through a lot, not being healthy and almost exclusively playing center, wore him down, so I thought there were a lot of factors that held him down last year because he actually got off to a good start but slowed down as the year went on. He’s definitely more comfortable playing a 4.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

Gay is going to need time to adjust to his new role and gel with the team. That takes precedence over anything else. We have the advantage of continuity where the rest of the team really doesn't need a lot of minutes together throughout the regular season. Quin should have the luxury of experimenting with different rotations and schemes.

 

[Hekate]

Paschall would be a beast in the screen and roll game as a 5. He would be like Harrell with a spaced floor.

Defense/rebounding is the much bigger question. Whiteside and Paschall both have their strengths and weaknesses there. I don't love the idea of matching up to small ball because the whole point of doing that is you can matchup 1-5 but the Jazz have issues matching up 1-4 already. I do like how it forces the other defenders to engage and be more active, however. It may not be effective as a whole, but it builds better defensive habits.

I am not really sure about the first part. Can he provide enough rim pressure? Can he get to his spots against quicker defenders when the focus is going to be on him?

All of Jazz's best defensive line-ups include Rudy. I guess Jazz may go small when he is resting.

I really don't trust Clarkson, Mitchell, Ingles, Bogey at all. I don't think you can build habits with them. They are just defensively challenged.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

I was very excited when I heard we traded for him, and thought he’d be better than most thought. I just remember researching his second year, he went through a lot, not being healthy and almost exclusively playing center, wore him down, so I thought there were a lot of factors that held him down last year because he actually got off to a good start but slowed down as the year went on. He’s definitely more comfortable playing a 4.

I also recall herring on a warriors podcast that he almost always played with Green and the sports writer felt they didn’t really mix well with styles. As well

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I am not really sure about the first part. Can he provide enough rim pressure? Can he get to his spots against quicker defenders when the focus is going to be on him?

All of Jazz's best defensive line-ups include Rudy. I guess Jazz may go small when he is resting.

I really don't trust Clarkson, Mitchell, Ingles, Bogey at all. I don't think you can build habits with them. They are just defensively challenged.

He sets big wide screens and he may not finish like Harrell but he can catch and maneuver or make good passes. He can also pop and hit mid range shots. If the defense holds I think he'd be great based on the small sample I've watched.

Donovan and JC have been better on defense. They have to be better if we are going to win at the highest levels anyway. We need to experiment with different looks. If Quin doesn't dabble with it then he's too rigid to coach a champion.

 

[KqWIN]

Me too... my worry is Quin has had such a hard time with managing this at times. He seems to push too hard or be too rigid. We are close to 100%... does Quin have the discipline to sit Mike and/or Joe on the backend of the back to back coming up? Those are big games... do we want to test ourselves or hamstring ourselves in 1 or both? What if you decide to sit Mike and Joe in Milwaukee then lose the Chicago game?

I think Quin's rigidness plays more into the resting thing. His rotation is very formulaic as we all know and he doesn't like to deviate from it. He was good about resting Conley last year during B2B's and I think he would be comfortable doing the same with Joe with Joe's streak no longer alive. Most players on media day, including Don, talked about the idea of resting and getting to the post-season healthy after falling victim to injuries themselves.

Maybe you don't have to rest one guy each night. There's about 12-15 minutes give or take for both backup positions in a normal non garbage time night. One guy can get the full run each night, and the other two split. Rotate that depending on matchup or on a regular cadence. The nice thing is that any combo of the 3 players works. Joe and Bogey can also take some nights off.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't know what players actually prefer, but I'd rather see a guy sit one game and play the next instead of chopping up the rotation and finding minutes here or there.

I think this makes the most sense. If you rest one of Whiteside/Gay/Paschall every three games, you get the benefit of rest, retaining some in-game rhythm and do it without cratering their superficial stats. It’s also important to keep the depth ready for when injury strikes or for playoff versatility.

 

[SoberasHotRod]

I think this makes the most sense. If you rest one of Whiteside/Gay/Paschall every three games, you get the benefit of rest, retaining some in-game rhythm and do it without cratering their superficial stats. It’s also important to keep the depth ready for when injury strikes or for playoff versatility.

Yeah, this is probably the way to do it. I forget how important per game stats are still.

 

[Hekate]

He sets big wide screens and he may not finish like Harrell but he can catch and maneuver or make good passes. He can also pop and hit mid range shots. If the defense holds I think he'd be great based on the small sample I've watched.

Donovan and JC have been better on defense. They have to be better if we are going to win at the highest levels anyway. We need to experiment with different looks. If Quin doesn't dabble with it then he's too rigid to coach a champion.

I thought the same last year. I am not going to be fooled again, lol.

RE: Paschall. Defensively, if teams involve him on the PnR, he is probably going to struggle. He has some freedom now with Gobert behind him and he is profitting off that. What happens without him?
Offensively, I don't think he has the skillset to pop from 3. He has a push shot and a little more variety around the rim. I agree that he is a willing passer but I doubt he will have the gravity to pull guys towards him and open up a teammate. I just don't think he will be impactful consistently.

May be I soured a little bit on basketball and it's affecting my thoughts.