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Harpring vs DWill

mellow

mellow

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I hadn't seen this posted:

From Deron Williams twitter:
Deron Williams "@hoopshype: For a guy that's only a couple of years removed from playing, M Harpring sure sounds very pro-owners." Was thinking Samething


Harprings reply:

@DeronWilliams @hoopshype let me speak for myself then. i am for fairness and for the fans! their is no game without the fans!


Wow, sounds like they really loved each other. I betcha they're (or is it their?) going to get together for lunch when Orlando (or whatever team Dwill forces a trade to) comes to town.
 
Harpring has nothing to lose and everything to gain by getting a season started regardless of what it means for players. In other words, his current interest greatly outweighs his former interest. That's what's bothered me most by his commenting on the issue. I'd be far less likely to discount what he had to say if he could actually be a neutral party.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Harpring has nothing to lose and everything to gain by getting a season started regardless of what it means for players. In other words, his current interest greatly outweighs his former interest. That's what's bothered me most by his commenting on the issue. I'd be far less likely to discount what he had to say if he could actually be a neutral party.
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That's what I was thinking. Greg signs his paychecks right now, and I don't think he gets paid while there's a lockout on top of that.
That being said, I don't think he really liked Duron all that much when they played together, so that doesn't help resolve a twitter fight.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Harpring has nothing to lose and everything to gain by getting a season started regardless of what it means for players. In other words, his current interest greatly outweighs his former interest. That's what's bothered me most by his commenting on the issue. I'd be far less likely to discount what he had to say if he could actually be a neutral party.
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This is why I was really hoping to get Fez's take on things.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Harpring has nothing to lose and everything to gain by getting a season started regardless of what it means for players. In other words, his current interest greatly outweighs his former interest. That's what's bothered me most by his commenting on the issue. I'd be far less likely to discount what he had to say if he could actually be a neutral party.
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The guy's married to a doctor. And you know Harp didn't squander his money. He needs his new paychecks a hell of a lot less than a lot of young guys in the league who were sweating their missed paychecks. He gave his honest advice. Deron considered it disloyal. Deron was wrong.
 
not sure i love the implication that only people with no stake in the thing get to comment on it. sure, harpring has his broadcaster salary on hold, but why does that make him less qualified to opine about the best/worst/quickest/fairest way to end a lockout? don't we all have a stake in the lockout? at the very least, we're all fans who want to be able to watch basketball. the others who have spoken out are current players, current owners, attorneys hired by either side, player agents, coaches unions, and employees of the or the many organizations that cover the league and depend on NBA games to get people to flip to their channel, buy their newspaper or visit their website. should all those people hold their tongue, too, since they clearly all have "current interests" that might cloud their position?
 
theNBAnerd said:
not sure i love the implication that only people with no stake in the thing get to comment on it. sure, harpring has his broadcaster salary on hold, but why does that make him less qualified to opine about the best/worst/quickest/fairest way to end a lockout? don't we all have a stake in the lockout? at the very least, we're all fans who want to be able to watch basketball. the others who have spoken out are current players, current owners, attorneys hired by either side, player agents, coaches unions, and employees of the or the many organizations that cover the league and depend on NBA games to get people to flip to their channel, buy their newspaper or visit their website. should all those people hold their tongue, too, since they clearly all have "current interests" that might cloud their position?
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I think what numbs really meant was he would value Harp's opinion more if he agreed with it. I'm guessing there were plenty of players who were of the same opinion, which is why the union didn't want to give everyone a chance to vote on the deal when it was rejected.

Having said that, Harpingsucks should probably now be changed to Harpringsuckup.
 
siromar said:
People who disagree with me are greedy and self-interested. Those who agree with me, however, are rational people who only care about the good of the game.
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qft
 
I want a season to happen so I have an agenda too. But I don't want a season to happen if their isn't parity. I'm willing to lose the entire season if it fixes this crap system. I'm not real happy with the deal as it stands.
 
mellow said:
I hadn't seen this posted:

From Deron Williams twitter:
Deron Williams "@hoopshype: For a guy that's only a couple of years removed from playing, M Harpring sure sounds very pro-owners." Was thinking Samething


Harprings reply:

@DeronWilliams @hoopshype let me speak for myself then. i am for fairness and for the fans! their is no game without the fans!


Wow, sounds like they really loved each other. I betcha they're (or is it their?) going to get together for lunch when Orlando (or whatever team Dwill forces a trade to) comes to town.
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Harpring doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would make such an obvious grammatical error.
 
What Deron doesn't seem to understand is that in order for the game to continue to grow and still be here in a few years, there had to be a change against what the players think they need. Sometimes, when you're in the heat of a strong opinion/argument, you can't always see the big picture. You're too busy trying to prove your "right". When in reality, being "right" is actually bad for the health of the league.

Granted, some owners are greedy. Other owners are terrible at managing teams. The point is to create a system where every team has a fair shot. Meaning, the ones who are greedy now have to pay out more. The ones who are terrible at managing their team now have a bandaid or two along with shorter contracts which lessens their future mistakes. The ones who are neither but can't seem to stay ahead now have more of the pie to work with. The ones who are really good but couldn't compete with the ones with bigger pots now have more of that pot back to them along with the possibility of even more if those big potheads, I mean big market guys, spend too much, it comes back to bite them. Huzzah! ;) hehehe

In other words, I like the word fair. If it doesn't hurt on both sides then it's not really a fair deal.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Harpring doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would make such an obvious grammatical error.
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Harpring is a passionate guy. Sometimes, when rushing to make a point, mistakes happen. Plus, it's a bit harder to correct a mistake once it's already been posted to other people's pages. :)
 
I respect Harpring - he is a smart dude...while other players where spending their daily meal money he saved good chunk of it. He as well made quite a bit of money by investing smart. Plus he was the strongest Jazz player while he played... I read he was bench pressing and squating heavier weights then Malone.
To bad as game announcer Matt sucks...
As far as this feud goes I agree with Matt. Deron should shut up.
 
AKMVP said:
I respect Harpring - he is a smart dude...while other players where spending their daily meal money he saved good chunk of it. He as well made quite a bit of money by investing smart. Plus he was the strongest Jazz player while he played... I read he was bench pressing and squating heavier weights then Malone.
To bad as game announcer Matt sucks...
As far as this feud goes I agree with Matt. Deron should shut up.
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I disagree that Harpring sucks as an announcer. He is far more knowledgeable than Bolerjack and Boone--not that they set the bar very high
 
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