Trade deadline discussion

[Eminence]

I'd love to get Smart. Craig more meh. There'd be minutes for him, but not sure how much of a difference he'd make.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

I’m too sentimental normally but I’m convinced now that ingles has turned that corner and it’s not just a slump thing. Still, ingles for Smart/Hart is just not going to happen. Those guys are too valuable for their respective teams. Ingles for Satoranski works and would be a bargain for us even with a late second round pick thrown in IMO. Might could get one coming in on this deal or a young wing or both.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The Jazz traded fan-favorites like Alec Burks, Joe Johnson and Jae Crowder, and they walked away from Ricky Rubio. Surely, they can move on from Joe Ingles.

 

[LoPo]

We won't get value back from a Joe trade that makes it worth losing him.

Clarkson and Conley both have good value right now. I don't see why we need Conley, Clarkson and Don when our perimeter defense is so bad.

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[Hekate]

We won't get value back from a Joe trade that makes it worth losing him.

Clarkson and Conley both have good value right now. I don't see why we need Conley, Clarkson and Don when our perimeter defense is so bad.

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If only one of Don or Clarkson was half the defender Conley is. It would alleviate a huge portion of Jazz's defensive woes.

 

[infection]

My assumption is that Ainge, based on what he’s seen since being onboard, is probably feeling that it would be malpractice to keep status quo with our obvious defensive issues. We’ve got an expensive team that has a narrow window that took a lot of time to assemble. We’re essentially driving a Mercedes without insurance and many raising the question are told to shut up and enjoy the ride.

I enjoy the ride. That’s why it needs to be protected with insurance and I don’t want to see all that work go up in flames.

 

[idiot]

My assumption is that Ainge, based on what he’s seen since being onboard, is probably feeling that it would be malpractice to keep status quo with our obvious defensive issues. We’ve got an expensive team that has a narrow window that took a lot of time to assemble. We’re essentially driving a Mercedes without insurance and many raising the question are told to shut up and enjoy the ride.

I enjoy the ride. That’s why it needs to be protected with insurance and I don’t want to see all that work go up in flames.

Hopefully you're right that Ainge will be our salvation. We'll see how it goes.

 

[idiot]

I’m too sentimental normally but I’m convinced now that ingles has turned that corner and it’s not just a slump thing. Still, ingles for Smart/Hart is just not going to happen. Those guys are too valuable for their respective teams. Ingles for Satoranski works and would be a bargain for us even with a late second round pick thrown in IMO. Might could get one coming in on this deal or a young wing or both.

I've liked Sato in the past, but I don't think he's any sort of answer to what ails the Jazz these days.

 

[Jingled]

The Jazz traded fav-favorites like Alec Burks, Joe Johnson and Jae Crowder, and they walked away from Ricky Rubio. Surely, they can move on from Joe Ingles.

Thats not a good comparison, Joe has meant WAY more to this franchise than any of those guys you listed. I mean Crowder and Johnson were only here for like a year and a half and Rubio two years. Joes been here for his entire 8 year career and has been an enormous part of the culture and identity of this team, not to mention everything he's done off the court in the community.

Having said that, he's definitely not the same player he was. Age has obviously caught up with him and I will completely understand if the front office decides to move him.

 

[infection]

Hopefully you're right that Ainge will be our salvation. We'll see how it goes.

I don’t know that it will be our salvation. It’s hard to say what’s out there that can be done that improves us, but I think seeing these past however many games is the equivalent of a patient going to a doctor with a fasting blood glucose >180 for 6 months and the doctor not starting metformin because the patient reassures them that they’re going to be disciplined with diet. Starting metformin isn’t going to address the underlying issue, but not starting metformin sure as hell isn’t doing them any favors.

 

[Isaiah 1:13]

I've liked Sato in the past, but I don't think he's any sort of answer to what ails the Jazz these days.

He’s having an awful year but I think it’s the culture there in N.O. and the lack of playing time. I watched him today in the first game on NBA channel and at least he can still move his feet and stay in front of his man. A 6’7” point guard with a good handle, great passing, good fg and ft % never goes out of style. Pass first made an exceptional pass to Jaxson Hayes inside that made Giannis go crazy and get a T. He’d set up Gobert like nobody else IMO.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Tonight’s loss was a good thing. Had we won it helps justify the “all is well” crowd. I’m sure Locke will say we simply missed and Iggy made two threes he should have missed and “nba maths says we won because shot quality per square foot was a 99% effective efficiency true point added box plus”


But the fact is they were missing their second best player and have another wild card to add… and they just have a ton more defensive force and versatility than us. It’s pretty clear they are better than us and it will take at least 1 key injury for us to beat them. So there isn’t anything really to risk by making a “risky” move. We aren’t there and if we want to be there will need to be some personnel changes.