I think the guy to go after is clearly Harrison Barnes, especially if the Jazz believe he has some ability to play on the ball.
yes but since Bogey is having a career year shooting the ball and is a clear better offensive player than Jingles, it's still surprising that his offense superiority is not enough to make him a better overall player.Yeah, because Bojan is clearly worse on D than Ingles.
Do you not watch Jazz basketball? I know Ingles has effort lowlights where his age shows, but he still makes way smarter defensive rotations and plays than Bojan does 75% of the time.
I dont think you can use RAPTOR that literally.yes but since Bogey is having a career year shooting the ball and is a clear better offensive player than Jingles, it's still surprising that his offense superiority is not enough to make him a better overall player.
I mean, it wouldnt be terrible. My fear with Barnes is that he really is just average at everything and he would get lost in the sauce in Utah like he did with Golden State. Obviously that player could still help UTah, but at the price tag? Im not sure I'd go for it.I think the guy to go after is clearly Harrison Barnes, especially if the Jazz believe he has some ability to play on the ball.
to me, both Barnes and Hart are low risk low reward type of deals. Would either of these guys help the Jazz? yes. But would either of them help us enough to push us to the top? probably not. If we can make deals to acquire both of these guys, it may make a big enough difference. but we simply can't afford both of them.I think the guy to go after is clearly Harrison Barnes, especially if the Jazz believe he has some ability to play on the ball.
yep, that's what I've been saying. every stat has flaws.I dont think you can use RAPTOR that literally.
Bojan is clearly better on offense than Ingles this year, and RAPTOR shows that.
Ingles is clearly better on defense than Bojan, and RAPTOR shows that.
The mix and who is "better" overall depends on a lot of other context and factors.
There used to be an obsession about, “can this guys be the best player on a championship team”. I’m glad that’s faded out…but sometimes the simplest things are the most telling.
Take a look at all the recent champions. They don’t just have one DPOY player and a bunch of buns, they typically have a DPOY player surrounded with high level, all defense type players. The one recent exception would probably be LeBron’s Cavs
Bucks - Giannis, Jrue, Lopez, Tucker
Lakers - AD, Playoff LeBron, Caruso, Green
Raptors - Kawhi, Gasol, Lowry, Green
Warriors - Draymond, Igoudala, Klay, Durant
Spurs - Kawhi, Duncan, Green, Splitter
These teams are absolutely stacked on defense. For the Jazz…we have Gobert. He may be the greatest of all time, but front there we have to squint our eyes to see any of players as good defenders in any situation. Royce is considered a good defender simply by proxy lol.
Its not that it has flaws, you just have to be smart, actually watch games and insert context.yep, that's what I've been saying. every stat has flaws.
The only thing this makes sense is Mitchell/Dame comps. Other than that the teams are completely different, even sans Gobert.Yeah, there's truth to this. Without Gobert, the Jazz are pretty much the Trailblazers.
without Rudy and Quin, we would be the trailblazers. imagine giving Quin a RoCo or Nance and he doesn't do jackshit with it.Yeah, there's truth to this. Without Gobert, the Jazz are pretty much the Trailblazers.
I mean, it wouldnt be terrible. My fear with Barnes is that he really is just average at everything and he would get lost in the sauce in Utah like he did with Golden State. Obviously that player could still help UTah, but at the price tag? Im not sure I'd go for it.
Like I said, I'm sure he would be a positive for the team, but he isnt going to be free. We dont have anything the Kings *should want and I wouldnt give up picks for Barnes.The modern game is dominated by big wings/forwards who can get in the middle of the floor and create for himself or others. It's just what the game is made for. I'm not sure if Barnes qualifies or not, tbh.
Yeah, because Bojan is clearly worse on D than Ingles.
Do you not watch Jazz basketball? I know Ingles has effort lowlights where his age shows, but he still makes way smarter defensive rotations and plays than Bojan does 75% of the time.
Not sure I trust this guy in the playoffs.
He's been rough lately... and sometimes its tough for us to remember back further than a few games. I do think he needs to be the second best perimeter defender and not used as a "stopper". That is more on Quin.Royce is way too disrespected on here constantly. Yes, he's not a lockdown defender. HE's still a great defender and one of the more versatile defenders in the NBA.
He isnt Gerald ****ing Green.
That moment and a few others have me thinking Hassan might be out there concussed... could just be the Whiteside experiene though.HOLY ****ING ****