Jazz acquire NAW and Juancho Hernangomez for Ingles, Hughes, and two 2nd round picks.

[jumpin bean]

WILLY HERMANGOMEZ HAS JUST BEEN DYNAMITE THIS YEAR WHEN GIVEN MINUTES, MAYBE THEY THINK IT MIGHT HAPPEN FOR HIS BROTHER,NOW A JAZZMAN

 

[hgb]

I think maybe this at least happens if we use the TPE on Hernangomez (but I don't know why we would do that, is that to free up another TPE?):

This is from http://cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q84

And that footnote (the '6') is:

It is commonly misreported that a team cannot aggregate a player (usually worded as trading the player with other players) for two months if the team is over the cap, or that a team that was under the cap when it made the initial trade cannot aggregate the player in a subsequent trade if it went over the cap in the meantime. Neither of these is true. All that matters is whether the player was acquired with an exception or with cap room.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

NAW should be better than he is by now... he might just be a bust... but all the guys drafted the last few years are hurt by the covid stuff... they haven't had normal offseasons. Also since he was in NO he gets a little grace.

If he still sucks end of year next year then he's a bust... but he's worth a flier.

He won't be in the rotation... at least not for long. He's not a precursor to a JC move imo... if a JC move was going to happen it would happen without regard to this move.

This was 92% about money... 8% about getting a prospect imo.

 

[hgb]

Juancho can be traded but he can’t get aggregated. So you can’t trade Juancho+Clarkson for example. We could try to rope any future trade in with the one that has been agreed upon.

TPE is useless because we won’t use it. This is a money trade, we will not spend more money and use the TPE.

What I don't get is, do we need to use TPE to get Juancho in the first place? If we don't, why can't we aggregate him?

 

[fishonjazz]

My Pelicans fan mate says he's a deeply frustrating player who can go off for 20 points only to serve up TOs that would make Westbrook proud. Also, that he has all the tools, but not the head.

Sounds kinda like clarkson

 

[Jazz Spazz]

I think maybe this at least happens if we use the TPE on Hernangomez (but I don't know why we would do that, is that to free up another TPE?):

This is from http://cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q84

Ok, I get that... other than Boston is basically in the same spot we are but were able to trade him less than a month later.

Thank you for posting this.

 

[SteakNEggs]

Way better than him leaving while still playing.

Not for Ingles sake. Dude gave this team his all and sadly gets injured and that may end his career. Now to celebrate that he gets shipped off from his team of guys that he liked.

That's life I guess... He is making a lot of money and I'm not so certain he didn't already know this was bound to happen even before the injury.

 

[LoPo]

Find a player making around $5-8 millon that a team doesn't want but can help us. Trade Hernangomez's expiring and another 2nd for that player. We can make a list....

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[Jazz Spazz]

Not for Ingles sake. Dude gave this team his all and sadly gets injured and that may end his career. Now to celebrate that he gets shipped off from his team of guys that he liked.

That's life I guess... He is making a lot of money and I'm not so certain he didn't already know this was bound to happen even before the injury.

I don't thin anyone is celebrating that he is gone, maybe a couple of people.
I think people are just looking for progress and activity from the FO, and are happy to see something.

I for one am fairly happy with the trade, but at the same time pretty bummed that Ingles is off the team.

 

[LoPo]

Find a player making around $5-8 millon that a team doesn't want but can help us. Trade Hernangomez's expiring and another 2nd for that player. We can make a list....

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Guys like

Delon Wright
Kevin Knox
Justin Holiday
Torrey Craig
Cory Joseph
DJ Augustin


PJ Washington if we use picks?


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[KqWIN]

What I don't get is, do we need to use TPE to get Juancho in the first place? If we don't, why can't we aggregate him?

I believe there is a 60 day waiting period to aggregate regardless of whether or not the player is acquired via TPE.

 

[outerspacefan]

I'm late to the party here but:

-Really wish they hadn't traded any picks, I hope it's worth it.
-I'm not familiar enough with NAW to have an opinion, I was ambivalent on Hughes.
-I'm wondering if Juancho could actually be a valuable piece.
-This will make a lot more sense if/when another trade is made. Hopefully this means JC is gone, I wouldn't be shocked if Gay is moved.
-If they trade a first for someone, it had better be for someone good enough to be real contenders. They can't keep burning through the few assets they have.
-Bummer to move Joe, but it seemed inevitable. If he plays again, I imagine he'll be back.

Overall, I like it. I'm totally fine with dumping salary, this is a business after all. Avoiding the luxury tax eventually would be a big deal.
I wasn't expecting anything to happen at all, really. I'll give it a B for now, but we will see.

EDIT: I will be *super* pissed off if this means they let House walk.

From first to last word, I couldn't have said it better.
I will only add that right now the Jazz got no first rounders until 2026, so they need to get some young dudes with potential.