The *OFFICIAL* Russia Is About To Invade Ukraine Thread

[babe]

Source to show the 1936 Montreau Convention grants Turkey the power to close the passage to the Black Sea to belligerent nations:


Source to prove Turkey is a NATO country:

Member states of NATO - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Source to support an attack on a NATO country is considered an attack on all NATO countries including the United States:

What Is NATO’s Article 5? | HISTORY

The article, as the cornerstone of a charter signed in 1949, establishes solidarity among member states and has been invoked only once.

www.history.com

Thank you.

I knew some that that but lacked thorough references.

I think more is made of some of these items in our media at the moment than is actually realistic.

I think closing the straits is itself an act of war in view of Russia, and it is effectively a declaration of war by NATO. Don't know how many NATO countries want it to be doing that right now.

I think Putin hurt his case by doing the physical invasion. If he would have stopped with just recognizing the Luhansk and Donetsk republics and holding a few troops in support maybe it would not have gone so bad in a lot of foreign relations.

I think Putin's information must have been that Ukraine was going to join NATO no matter what he did. I think he viewed even that as a declaration of war.

I noticed that India is one of the countries that is against the resolution condemning Russia, and that the language of the resolution has been changed from "condemn" to "deplore" in order to get more countries on board.

Western media in the UK and EU have shut down Russian sources to achieve a "single narrative". This is also a declaration of war in effect, and means negotiations will not succeed.

I am corrected here by some facts. While the UK and EU are talking about shutting down RT in languages "at home", apparently russian language news can still be accessed from the West. I have also been able to access english language "Moscow times". I don't know how controlled russian media is, but reportedly a lot of it is done with regard to not anger government folks.

 

[sirkickyass]

FYI:

Western media in the UK and EU have shut down Russian sources to achiece a "single narrative". This is also a declaration of war and means negotiations will not succeed.

It's not that hard to find out what Russian media is saying.

I'm literally watching Today's programming right now:

 

[Avery]

It’s pretty stunning how much social media has shown us on the frontlines and in real time. Not just from civilians, but military servicemen posting things, memes, etc. Even people recording their own death unfortunately.

I don’t like calling it the Tik Tok war, but it’s amazing how satellite mapping and other technology has unclouded the fog of war.

 

[Rubashov]

After a Fumbled Start, Russian Forces Hit Harder in Ukraine

After days of miscalculation about Ukraine’s resolve to fight, Russian forces are turning toward an old pattern of opening fire on cities and mounting sieges.

www.nytimes.com

Excellent article

 

[Deleted member 365]

This is a sobering interview with Fiona Hill about Putin, his mentality/plans, and the situation in Ukraine. Spoiler, don’t read it if you want a good night’s rest. Putin’s going to turn Kyiv into Grozny or Aleppo in the next few days.

‘Yes, He Would’: Fiona Hill on Putin and Nukes

Putin is trying to take down the entire world order, the veteran Russia watcher said in an interview. But there are ways even ordinary Americans can fight back.

www.politico.com

 

[Red]

Uncle Zelensky Wants YOU For The Ukraine Army

Ukraine President Zelensky is inviting foreigners to volunteer to join the armed forces of Ukraine. Here is what you should know before you go.

sofrep.com

Americans, Canadians answer Ukraine call for foreign fighters

A Texas software developer and a cook in British Columbia are among dozens of Americans and Canadians answering Ukraine's call for foreign volunteers to fight Russia's invasion.

www.reuters.com

Man abandons job for 8,000 mile trip to join resistance fighters in Ukraine

A veteran has given up his new job as a lorry driver in Canada to join the fight against Vladimir Putin's forces.

metro.co.uk

 

[Red]

This is a sobering interview with Fiona Hill about Putin, his mentality/plans, and the situation in Ukraine. Spoiler, don’t read it if you want a good night’s rest. Putin’s going to turn Kyiv into Grozny or Aleppo in the next few days.

‘Yes, He Would’: Fiona Hill on Putin and Nukes

Putin is trying to take down the entire world order, the veteran Russia watcher said in an interview. But there are ways even ordinary Americans can fight back.

www.politico.com

I found this to be a good piece to read in conjunction with the interview of Fiona Hill….

The Terrible Truth So Many Experts Missed About Russia

Vladimir Putin didn’t always rule his country alone. Now he does, and the dictator appears to care little about the consequences of his actions.

slate.com

As was this:

No, You’re Not Imagining It: Russia’s Army Is Inept

But superior firepower still gives it an edge in the short run.

slate.com

“All this aside, it is still possible—even likely—that, if the fighting goes on much longer, the Russians will overtake the Ukrainians, capture Kyiv, and possibly oust the current government. They’ve sent in only about two-thirds of the troops and weapons that had been poised on the Ukrainian border. Convoys of tanks are rolling in—however slowly—from the north, west, and south. They are joined, or are about to be joined, by Belarusian troops and Chechen special forces. As the resistance mounts and as the Russians’ offensive is thwarted, Putin and his generals can be expected to turn up the heat, shelling—and, recently, bombing—cities, destroying whatever they can destroy, for destruction’s sake. This is what the Russian military has done elsewhere, notably in Chechnya, when its officers feel frustrated. At some point, superior firepower will win out, at least in the short run.

But this doesn’t mean they will win in the long run. The resistance will continue, especially now that practically every nation in NATO is supplying Ukraine with weapons. Putin’s invasion has rallied Ukrainian nationalism, stiffened the West’s spine, and sent his own economy into a tailspin. Chaotic destructiveness can only go so far. It is not a winning technique for the long run against organized defenses. And the more Putin resorts to chaotic destructiveness, the more organized the defenses become”.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Meanwhile on Russian tv…





This is what Trump, Tucker, and Fox News do to America. Just completely Orwellian. Keeping large segments of the population completely ignorant of reality.

Just like Fox News finds an enemy (BLM, Fauci, liberals, caravans, trans children, etc) and spins it’s narrative around that enemy while ignoring everything else, Russian “News” does the same. This claim of neo Nazis joining forces with the west to defend Ukraine is really ****ed up. And once images of Kyiv in rubble begin to show up, they can call it “fake news” while also justifying it over the Nazis and the west for it taking over Ukraine. I’ve even seen them accuse thee east of arming Ukraine with nuclear weapons. Hence, justification for anything Russia now does. You can see the Hannitys, Tuckers, and Rand Pauls of Russia saying,

“They did this. The decadent Nazi west did all of this. See, the Russian people are victims again. The west infringed into Russia’s sphere of influence for living space. But we’re also conquerors and didn’t lose a single person! All hail putin! You really aren’t poor and the ruble makes excellent firewood. Don’t protest any of this or else you’ll be beaten and arrested.”

Sad. I don’t know how you mobilize people into action when the state has such a tight grip on information. Really Orwellian 1984 stuff when you consider the millions in America, China, and Russia living in a bubble completely detached from reality.

 

[Red]

Addressing the European Parliment.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Yikes

 

[Red]

A photo is being shown of a Ukrainian soldier said to be the wife of the Ukrainian Vice President. But the photo is old, and not the vice president’s wife. That photo is not included in the compilation below. In these photos, women shown with a black band across their image have been killed in combat…

 

[Deleted member 365]

The MAGA Trucker Convoy Is Mad Ukraine Is Getting All the Attention Right Now

As Russia's invasion dominates headlines, some freedom convoy "truckers" are desperately trying to figure out how to make it about them.

www.vice.com

Ummm.

Even the organizing pages are being peppered with conversations about the war, updates on Russian advancements, and brainstorming on how to make this about them. “Wasn't this group originally about the global freedom convoy? How did it get highjacked so easily?” one supporter asked. Others desperately tried to direct people Ukraine-posting toward other chats. A few “truckers” are upset that people think what the Ukrainian people are going through is as bad as being asked to wear a mask or vaccine mandates.
“People now say: Well, those ‘Freedom Truckers’ sure picked a bad week to try and get attention for being victims of tyranny,” wrote one Trucker fan annoyed by the war in Ukraine. “They are starting to twist the events by saying oh our suffering is somehow much less. NO IT IS NOT!”