Does anyone still like this team?
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Archie Moses
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Mitchell sucks.
Hero ball.
Bad defense.
Poor shot selection.
It's almost as if I said it when he was a rookie (and started with the worst fg% of all-time) and I was a moron for saying that.
Mmmkay.
I can't deal with stupid so I don't post much.
Hero ball.
Bad defense.
Poor shot selection.
It's almost as if I said it when he was a rookie (and started with the worst fg% of all-time) and I was a moron for saying that.
Mmmkay.
I can't deal with stupid so I don't post much.
SteakNEggs
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Nope... I hate to say it but do not like this team. Last year I think I missed like 10 games all year and this year I've missed most. Between the immature drama between our two so called leaders, to a boring offense that is nothing but the 3 ball, to lazy defense outside of one guy, to Royce O'Neal playing 30+ minutes and doing hardly anything, to absolutely no leadership, to Quin being so set in his stubborn ways that there will never be change.
Despite additions we've basically had the same team sane results for 4+ years now and this year's team may just be the worst of them all when it should be the best.
We'll see though. Maybe they will get it together come playoffs but I doubt it
Despite additions we've basically had the same team sane results for 4+ years now and this year's team may just be the worst of them all when it should be the best.
We'll see though. Maybe they will get it together come playoffs but I doubt it
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I rarely missed games. Now I rarely watch them in their entirety. I too find the 3 ball no defense stuff boring. Feels like we’re watching the rockets play. I miss post ups, guys taking it to the rack and dunking, and actually valuing possessions. I also don’t get why we drafted Butler when we could’ve had Herb Jones. And then trading for another Butler/Clarkson at the deadline. Half our roster seems to be the exact same undersized player. Do we really need 6 jordan Clarksons?
I don't miss post ups. I do miss valuing possessions more.
All of this. I’ve never missed as many games as this season and it’s rarely on my radar.
I essentially started the season thinking “I don’t care about the regular season, all that matters is how this team does in the playoffs”.
But what you said above is what I’ve seen in the 10-15 games I’ve watched and it’s just tiring.
What I'm getting from this thread sounds like this.
May people don't like this team this year (and prior years) because they should be better than they are showing on the floor, and off the floor.
Off the floor there should be more grown up handling of things and professionalism... as they are adults and whatnot.
On the floor there are many issues.
There should be more passing, even to the big guys down low including Gobert.
More players should exert themselves physically and mentally on defense.
More blender, more variety in the plays, more dunks, more posters, more fights.
More leadership.
Less O'Neale. Less greenlight for Clarkson unless he's hot.
Front office
Fire Ainge, don't hire any other BYU alums, sell the team to a non BYU alum, expunge DL's history from the team history
Fire Quin, hire pretty much anyone else.
Trade pretty much everyone, blow it up and start from Kings level... I mean ground zero.
Don't do whatever they have done, and do whatever they haven't done.
Coaching
Win a championship
Don't run whatever plays they run right now
Change philosophies, each game to keep it interesting
Play everyone less and more at the same time
Listen to Alex more
Have better lineups out there
I'm sure I missed a few.
FYI - Quin is the only other Jazz coach to have a winning record over .500 other than Sloan.
I think people are bored because we are used to winning for the most part, and now we want to win it all or at least get to the WCF to be satisfied.
May people don't like this team this year (and prior years) because they should be better than they are showing on the floor, and off the floor.
Off the floor there should be more grown up handling of things and professionalism... as they are adults and whatnot.
On the floor there are many issues.
There should be more passing, even to the big guys down low including Gobert.
More players should exert themselves physically and mentally on defense.
More blender, more variety in the plays, more dunks, more posters, more fights.
More leadership.
Less O'Neale. Less greenlight for Clarkson unless he's hot.
Front office
Fire Ainge, don't hire any other BYU alums, sell the team to a non BYU alum, expunge DL's history from the team history
Fire Quin, hire pretty much anyone else.
Trade pretty much everyone, blow it up and start from Kings level... I mean ground zero.
Don't do whatever they have done, and do whatever they haven't done.
Coaching
Win a championship
Don't run whatever plays they run right now
Change philosophies, each game to keep it interesting
Play everyone less and more at the same time
Listen to Alex more
Have better lineups out there
I'm sure I missed a few.
FYI - Quin is the only other Jazz coach to have a winning record over .500 other than Sloan.
I think people are bored because we are used to winning for the most part, and now we want to win it all or at least get to the WCF to be satisfied.
Park Bites
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I am so indifferent to this team it is sad. I have been a jazz fan since the early 1980s. I have been there through thick and thin but this team is just so frustrating. I don't watch any game but will look up the score if they win I am like ok good. If they lose I am like oh well better luck next time.
What also makes it hard is I am a Los Angeles Chargers fan and their window to win a ring is open right now. So a lot of my energies are spent there.
Also have seen a lot of trade ideas to send Mitchell to NY and they get back Randle and picks thing that NY if going to build around Mitchell and Barrett. If the Jazz trade Mitchell and not get Barrett back it is a failure.
What also makes it hard is I am a Los Angeles Chargers fan and their window to win a ring is open right now. So a lot of my energies are spent there.
Also have seen a lot of trade ideas to send Mitchell to NY and they get back Randle and picks thing that NY if going to build around Mitchell and Barrett. If the Jazz trade Mitchell and not get Barrett back it is a failure.
Quick question I'm throwing out to the community:
Does anybody have an example of a low efficiency/high usage player that became a high efficiency player with lower usage?
I'm curious in general, but Jazz related people have talked about NAW or Gay in the past as possibly becoming more efficient on our team as their usage went down. It makes some logical sense as those players would be less likely to need to force shots at lower usages. I just can't think of any examples of that actually happening. Thanks in advance.
Does anybody have an example of a low efficiency/high usage player that became a high efficiency player with lower usage?
I'm curious in general, but Jazz related people have talked about NAW or Gay in the past as possibly becoming more efficient on our team as their usage went down. It makes some logical sense as those players would be less likely to need to force shots at lower usages. I just can't think of any examples of that actually happening. Thanks in advance.
LoPo
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Good question. Does Wiggins count? He went from total greenlight in Minny to having to fit in GS. I don't know his numbers, but he might be an example.
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I love Conley and Bogey but looking back I think I actually preferred watching the Rubio/Crowder team more than this current one. That team definitely wasn't anywhere near as good offensive/shooting wise, but it seemed like they played harder and had more personality and fight/grit than this team does. That group was less talented for sure but in my opinion, they had more heart. 2017/18 will forever be one of my favorite Jazz seasons and the OKC series will forever be one of my favorite playoff series' ever.