SteakNEggs
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Because it's an inconvenience. These guys are flat out lazy. These guys do not want to work for anything.
Mic’d up segment Donovan/Quin
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This is 10000000% my biggest issue with Quin. It was so ****ing obvious the Rudy touches were almost meant to humble him. Feeding him the ball on rolls at the FT line and posting him up against a big outside the paint. Those are areas Rudy is going to fail a lot of the time.
Why not run a play to get him a switch and duck in vs a guard (WHy don't we ever do this!!!!!!)? It's just so weird to me. Props to Donovan for hitting Rudy with some nice love passes that Rudy didn't have the juice to finish, but those other looks were not it.
Why not run a play to get him a switch and duck in vs a guard (WHy don't we ever do this!!!!!!)? It's just so weird to me. Props to Donovan for hitting Rudy with some nice love passes that Rudy didn't have the juice to finish, but those other looks were not it.
The only player I think this is a huge Quin issue is Donovan. He's the only non defender we have who has the skills to be a plus defender.
Bogey is slow mentally and physically. He has no ****ing foresight whatsoever on the court. His anticipation skills are *** and so are his reaction times. I get why he's bad on D and I dont think any amount of "hard coaching" is going to help his game in that regard.
Clarkson is kind of like Mitchell as well. He has the tools but D has been such an afterthought for him for so long I don't think he is mentally able to lock in.
Conley is older so I get his issues on D at times. He actually rotates though and even tries on rebounds that la d outside the paint
LoPo
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The media has been alluding to a fractured lockerroom for a while, and all the assumption and the blame has fallen on Donovan. What if the real issue is Rudy Gobert? When are yall going to realize that the biggest diva on the team is probably Rudy?
I'm willing to bet Rudy complains all the time behind closed doors. Hell, he complained to the media about touches during the 20-21 season while we were doing well. He publically complains all the time which irritates his coaching staff and teammates.
So many of you have built up in your mind that Rudy is some guy who tries the hardest, says all the right things and is never to blame for our shortcomings. What if he is the massive diva disrupting the lockerroom?
I bet he complained about shot attempts in Game 1 even though we won the game. Pathetic
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I'm willing to bet Rudy complains all the time behind closed doors. Hell, he complained to the media about touches during the 20-21 season while we were doing well. He publically complains all the time which irritates his coaching staff and teammates.
So many of you have built up in your mind that Rudy is some guy who tries the hardest, says all the right things and is never to blame for our shortcomings. What if he is the massive diva disrupting the lockerroom?
I bet he complained about shot attempts in Game 1 even though we won the game. Pathetic
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He literally said that while he would like more shots, as long as they won, it wasn't important and that they talk about sacrifice and it's one of those things to help the team.
rjfan
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If Rudy was the diva you wanna portrait, there would be no defensive effort from him within all that eff you the team constantly gives him both sides of the floor
Also, all the rumours that comes to talk over the team splitting come from the visualization of Donovan asking out, or Donovan coming out to the front office and telling them to choose between he and Rudy. And those rumours don't come from jazzfans board, nor local jazz beat writers
LoPo
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Because Rudy tries really hard in a defensive system, he can't be a diva?
Rock solid logic there.
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LoPo
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Then why did Quin make the comment about trying to get him the ball that came with the response we see?
I love how yall will completely commit to rumors involving Donovan to the point that you blow it out of proportion, but you simply refuse to see something clear as day.
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jope
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We just have to come to terms that we have an aging $40M+ big man who’s primary offensive skills are setting questionably-legal screens and being taller than everyone else. He can’t catch, pass, dribble, post up, pivot, or shoot reliably from anywhere on the floor.
It’s hard to get a guy the ball consistently when he can’t do any of those things.
On the other side of the coin, we have multiple perimeter guys who are making “star” money who’s primary defensive skills are watching people dribble past them.
The team is fractured and flawed. You can have 1 or 2 1-dimensional players and be successful if they are elite, but you can’t build an entire roster of 1-dimensional players and expect long term success.
It’s hard to get a guy the ball consistently when he can’t do any of those things.
On the other side of the coin, we have multiple perimeter guys who are making “star” money who’s primary defensive skills are watching people dribble past them.
The team is fractured and flawed. You can have 1 or 2 1-dimensional players and be successful if they are elite, but you can’t build an entire roster of 1-dimensional players and expect long term success.
In the same post you:
1. Suggest that people have “built up in their mind” a positive view of Rudy.
2. Spend the entire rest of the post conjuring up hypothetical scenarios in your mind to counter #1.
LoPo
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There is more tangible evidence that Rudy is a diva yet Donovan is the one who takes the brunt of criticism around here for team issues.
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