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SoberasHotRod said:
I think he can still be productive. I'm personally of the opinion that his struggles were more mental than physical. I think he'll overcome those. I could be wrong though. My guess is next year will be closer to the start of this year vs his playoff performance.
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I think Mike is likely to have another good RS despite his age....but even during the RS it was clear that he was struggling to beat guys off the dribble and go up against length. He was great as a spot up shooter and when getting good screens from Gobert, and I think he'll still be good in those situations, but if teams switch or trap against him I don't think he has it in him to be productive anymore. The other playoff realization is that while he can be a solid part of a defense in the RS, when teams target him it will get ugly. I think he has value for a team like WAS who is just trying to make the playoffs, but he won't be able to be an impact player in the playoffs.

#10 or even Rui/Deni + KCP still seems very rich to me. I wonder if you package it in with a potential Rudy-ATL trade or without a Rudy trade at all. I think ATL would be open to shedding some future money and trading Huerter/Bogdan for KCP + sweetner.

Bogdan/Huerter + Ish to UTA
KCP + sweetner (from WAS) to ATL
Conley to WAS

I think the Jazz ought to be really happy getting Huerter or Bogdan out of Conley.
 
I don't think it's difficult to find the deal zone for a Rudy-ATL trade. They are an obvious destination, and the trade package makes sense rumors or not. Of course it's going to be Capela+Collins as the base, then sweetener from ATL. We've been discussing this for months.
 
Elizah Huge said:
There are left-leaning Mormons?
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When I was at BYU early this century, I found it interesting that there was always this perception of BYU being this ultraconservative university. What I found is that people may have identified themselves as being right-leaning out of nominal default, or perhaps on some bigger, defining issues, but they didn't realize how left-leaning they really were. There's always been a right/left divided, but this was pre-social media polarization and every single issue being divided on a right/left axis (at least to the extent it is now). The advent of social media and every possible issue or current event being cast so increasingly strict through a right/left lens leaves no surprise that more and more people will be indentifying as left-leaning. I say this mostly as people who were fairly indifferent to politics, at least in it being a huge part of identity. I'm not talking about people who live for this stuff. Societal values and perspectives have certainly trended to being a good and rational person is to be left leaning, and with association of being greedy, hateful and sociopathic at worst, and naive and ignorant at best for bring considered "right-win," you'll find people with good intentions naturally wanting to shy away from that association. "Avoiding even the appearance of evil" is an idea pretty pervasive in influencing people and, just like language, that meaning is set against a societal backdrop that is very strongly culturally influenced.
 
KqWIN said:
I don't think it's difficult to find the deal zone for a Rudy-ATL trade. They are an obvious destination, and the trade package makes sense rumors or not. Of course it's going to be Capela+Collins as the base, then sweetener from ATL. We've been discussing this for months.
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For sure. We have discussed multiple different packages that are just minor tweaks for months. Maybe we aren’t just some dumb fans after all.

Now, the interesting thing is if we got 16 could we re-route that with Conley to Washington for 10?
 
This package is better, but I'll have a hard time really caring what happens if we make this pivot. Our defense is going to be terrible. This isn't rectified by a new system and a few new guys who will guard the perimeter. You're not going to be able to build around Donovan and take that big of a step back defensively and be serious. I think there'd be more buzz and there are things that look smoother, but I don't believe we'd be anywhere near being a serious contender. But we'd have the feel-goods and it would tickle Ryan.
 
Elizah Huge said:
For sure. We have discussed multiple different packages that are just minor tweaks for months. Maybe we aren’t just some dumb fans after all.

Now, the interesting thing is if we got 16 could we re-route that with Conley to Washington for 10?
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I think the Jazz and Hawks know what they want and don't want. If I were to guess, Utah is trying to find a home for Capela. Looking for a 3rd team.
 
infection said:
This package is better, but I'll have a hard time really caring what happens if we make this pivot. Our defense is going to be terrible. This isn't rectified by a new system and a few new guys who will guard the perimeter. You're not going to be able to build around Donovan and take that big of a step back defensively and be serious. I think there'd be more buzz and there are things that look smoother, but I don't believe we'd be anywhere near being a serious contender. But we'd have the feel-goods and it would tickle Ryan.
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Our defense is going to change no matter what due to a new coach. We don't even know if Rudy Gobert is going to put up the same numbers or have the same impact on the game without Quin.
 
KqWIN said:
I don't think it's difficult to find the deal zone for a Rudy-ATL trade. They are an obvious destination, and the trade package makes sense rumors or not. Of course it's going to be Capela+Collins as the base, then sweetener from ATL. We've been discussing this for months.
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If you got this and #16 I think its a definite yes from Atlanta... if they add the Charlotte pick they own and #44 or Huerter for Bogey swap then I think its a definite yes from us.
 
LoPo said:
I think the Jazz and Hawks know what they want and don't want. If I were to guess, Utah is trying to find a home for Capela. Looking for a 3rd team.
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Actually quite the contrary I think we want Hunter included.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If you got this and #16 I think its a definite yes from Atlanta... if they add the Charlotte pick they own and #44 or Huerter for Bogey swap then I think its a definite yes from us.
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Tony is really pumping that we want Hunter included.

Rudy + Bogey for Hunter/Collins/Capela/16
 
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