Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

[Miggs]

Sorry to interrupt this fun convo… but the thing to watch is the Ayton deal. I am fairly sure Indiana is waiting until tomorrow to offer up a contract as that is when they have the space to do so… so in 24 hours stuff should start falling. We might actually see some action ahead of that today… I really hope so at least.

Is the plan to play him at the 5 and shift Turner to the 4? Do they think Turner can play the 4? Would be interesting. Ayton can actually shoot decently but just rarely pulled the trigger. Turner has range. They could go five out and super big (not sure who their 3 is) like the Cavs and now Wolves.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

The question with the Jazz is why the Jazz have not officially presented the players acquired in the Rudy deal... Are they getting moved soon? Is this the reason?

seems to be a weekend thing generally. i would expect it to happen today or tomorrow. and if not, yeah, that will be kinda weird. but i don't think it's because they are getting moved.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Is the plan to play him at the 5 and shift Turner to the 4? Do they think Turner can play the 4? Would be interesting. Ayton can actually shoot decently but just rarely pulled the trigger. Turner has range. They could go five out and super big (not sure who their 3 is) like the Cavs and now Wolves.

Pretty sure they’d move Turner and may move him in a deal for Ayton.

 

[LogGrad98]

One, I’m only fiscally conservative. I voted Biden.

That said, this is interesting. I looked at other data too (U-6 info which to me is a better indicator) and that along with some other analytics all point to what you said. Unemployment is at a low that mirrors all-time lows over the last 25 years basically.

So my question is, why is there this narrative about how businesses can’t find employees? While you label it some conservative narrative, I’d disagree. The media, predominantly liberal, has been shoving this down our throats for a long time. But that’s neither here nor there. I’m curious why there seems to be a genuine shortage of employees—this isn’t just some made up narrative. I see it all the time when I go out…business owners or managers apologizing and the like for “taking too long” because they can’t find people.

So I just wondered how many small businesses there are in this country and whether it’s increased over the last year or two. And yep, from 2017-2021, the number of small businesses increased 9.8%. Look at the population of this country and it has not increased even close to that percentage since 2017. So in essence, the number of people is fine. We just have too many damn small businesses. I guess it’ll be survival of the fittest.

The low unemployment drives a lack of workers. More people with jobs = lower availability in the workforce. It also drives an increase in demand for workers because high employment usually means higher spending which equates to higher production (of whatever the good or service is, not like "manufacturing" type production), and a higher need for people. It has always been harder to staff our buildings when we had low unemployment, and that is generally when wages increase the most, as they have over the past 2 years. Covid drove a worker shortage because, despite higher unemployment people didn't want or need to work. Now with low unemployment we just don't have the labor pool to draw from.

 

[LogGrad98]

The question with the Jazz is why the Jazz have not officially presented the players acquired in the Rudy deal... Are they getting moved soon? Is this the reason?

I think they are still on the table. No need to announce anything until everything is finalized.

 

[Friend2bees]

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Apparently the reason the Jazz haven't done anything with the new players is that they haven't done physicals yet. Seems like a cover story to me, not that I have any inside info though.

 

[GVC]

One, I’m only fiscally conservative. I voted Biden.

That said, this is interesting. I looked at other data too (U-6 info which to me is a better indicator) and that along with some other analytics all point to what you said. Unemployment is at a low that mirrors all-time lows over the last 25 years basically.

So my question is, why is there this narrative about how businesses can’t find employees? While you label it some conservative narrative, I’d disagree. The media, predominantly liberal, has been shoving this down our throats for a long time. But that’s neither here nor there. I’m curious why there seems to be a genuine shortage of employees—this isn’t just some made up narrative. I see it all the time when I go out…business owners or managers apologizing and the like for “taking too long” because they can’t find people.

So I just wondered how many small businesses there are in this country and whether it’s increased over the last year or two. And yep, from 2017-2021, the number of small businesses increased 9.8%. Look at the population of this country and it has not increased even close to that percentage since 2017. So in essence, the number of people is fine. We just have too many damn small businesses. I guess it’ll be survival of the fittest.

Apologies for singling out "conservatives"; even in "liberal" traditional media here in Canada, the narrative is frustratingly similar.

Without diving into the socio-political/demographic reasons why--there are just lots of old folks who refuse to accept any responsibility for being anti-social parasites for the last 40 years--my only semi-informed take relates to what you've uncovered:

COVID was extremely disruptive: Due to public health measures (lockdowns), consumer demand changed dramatically in a very short period of time, both in terms of what was demanded and how it could be supplied. As a result, a bunch of new businesses popped up. Some of the old and new businesses will fail--there simply isn't enough money/demand for goods and services for all of them to survive. Labour shortages are measured based on the number of jobs businesses want to fill (at least, that's the case in Canada's Job Vacancy and Wage Survey). So, even if lots of people are employed, whenever you get structural changes to demand/the economy, you should expect (transitory) labour shortages. That appears to me to be the whole story--at least with respect to overall labour shortages; I assume university educated folks are still way ahead with more remote work and service sector workers are still in trouble (I've been appalled at how little focus there's been at the provincial and federal level in Canada to invest in more education and training for these folks, especially when money was so cheap).

 

[Jazz Spazz]

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Apparently the reason the Jazz haven't done anything with the new players is that they haven't done physicals yet. Seems like a cover story to me, not that I have any inside info though.

And all doctors in Utah or surrounding states are on vacation. Seems plausible.

 

[GVC]

The low unemployment drives a lack of workers. More people with jobs = lower availability in the workforce. It also drives an increase in demand for workers because high employment usually means higher spending which equates to higher production (of whatever the good or service is, not like "manufacturing" type production), and a higher need for people. It has always been harder to staff our buildings when we had low unemployment, and that is generally when wages increase the most, as they have over the past 2 years. Covid drove a worker shortage because, despite higher unemployment people didn't want or need to work. Now with low unemployment we just don't have the labor pool to draw from.

Also, this (which is the simpler, more generally true answer...).

 

[whatthe]

And all doctors in Utah or surrounding states are on vacation. Seems plausible.

Trades, drafts are Ainge's strengths. Not player welcome intros, lol.

 

[One Brow]

So my question is, why is there this narrative about how businesses can’t find employees? While you label it some conservative narrative, I’d disagree. The media, predominantly liberal, has been shoving this down our throats for a long time. But that’s neither here nor there. I’m curious why there seems to be a genuine shortage of employees—this isn’t just some made up narrative. I see it all the time when I go out…business owners or managers apologizing and the like for “taking too long” because they can’t find people.

So I just wondered how many small businesses there are in this country and whether it’s increased over the last year or two. And yep, from 2017-2021, the number of small businesses increased 9.8%. Look at the population of this country and it has not increased even close to that percentage since 2017. So in essence, the number of people is fine. We just have too many damn small businesses. I guess it’ll be survival of the fittest.

The other part is aging. I'm 60 and on the young side for boomers. We're leaving the job market at a rapid pace (although perhaps not as quickly as they did 20 years ago). The current crop of young folks don't have our population size.

 

[One Brow]

Exclusive | St. John’s professor allegedly fired for reading racial slur from Mark Twain book

Hannah Berliner Fischthal, an adjunct instructor at the Catholic college in Queens for 20 years, uttered the N-word once during a remote class Feb. 10.

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Fordham U. prof fired after mixing up two black students in class

Hours after what he called an ‘innocent mistake,’ lecturer Christopher Trogan sent a rambling, nine-page email to students explaining the faux pas.

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You’re right. They get fired because woke culture knows better than everyone else. These took me seconds to find. I could find handfuls more if you want.

Your source is the New York Post? The National Inquirer was too reputable?

I haven't looked into these individual cases. Are you really interested in discussing them? If so, I'll start a thread in GD on them.