Red
Well-Known Member
Listen. You misunderstand me. And I’m perfectly capable of not being clear in what I’m trying to say.Maybe, but I really ask myself, what would be the desired outcome of said civil war? Removal of all individual liberties? Return to segregation? Separate but equal codified in the constitution? Abortion criminalized, along with miscarriages and anyone helping any women with pregnancy complications? President/Dictator Trump serving for life? Elimination of checks and balances in the structure of our government? What do they really want to accomplish? So they kick off a civil war since the FBI raided one of Trump's residences. So they start fighting, and killing people, and what do they want to come out of it? Just an orgasm from achieving their fever dreams of killing people with their 200 guns? Seriously, a civil war has to have targets, end-state goals, and then finally, consequences. Talk of a civil war is just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Not that some right-wing militia groups and citizens with murder fantasies might band together and put up a show of force, but take the real actual civil war we had. We had a literal division in the country. I am sure not everyone on the north side and everyone on the south side agreed with the reasoning entirely for their side to fight, but enough did to allow it to happen and to support it. But it was a fundamental change to our country the likes of which we have never seen before or since. These idiots really think 50% of the population will support attacking the other 50% because Trump might be held accountable for his actions? How remarkably stupid.
I think they should band together and start this civil war. Every single right-wing militia group and extremist who feels attacking our seat of government was a patriotic act because we can't lose an election!!1! How can we lose, it has to be yet another conspiracy!!! We could have cheerleaders and everything!!!1! We are the 'muricans, mighty mighty 'muricans!!! We have spirit, yes we do, we have guns, how 'bout YOU?!?!? 'Muricans let's fight, get Trump a vict'ry tonight!! Let's FIGHT!!! Who do we want? TRUMP!! What do we want? D-I-C-T-A-T-O-R......TTTRRRUUUUMMMMPPPPP!!!!!!! GO TRUMP!!!
Maybe we can eliminate the bulk of the morons doing real damage to the country in one fell swoop as the military swoops in and puts it down in about an hour.
First of all, I have no idea what form a civil war would take in the United States today. I have no idea what form a civil war takes place in a modern national security state. I would not expect standing armies, that’s for sure.
I am not even sure a single shot needs to be fired to even qualify as a civil war in this age!
We are engaged in a cultural and political civil war right now, as far as I am concerned. Most Republicans are convinced the 2020 election was stolen. They see the Democrats, and liberals, as the enemy of the country they love. And Democrats clearly not just understand, but clearly actually SEE that Trump and his supporters tried to overturn one election, and they believe they will do it again. I don’t see every MAGA supporter as my enemy, but I certainly see the MAGA movement as the enemy of my country. I believe these two perspectives are irreconcilable at present. And if so, how do we emerge from cultural and political civil war?
I know people think of civil wars as blood soaked affairs, but if we decide, that, from now on, MAGA can only hate liberals and progressives, and liberals and Democrats can only hate MAGA, then what are we left with? Fierce court battles every single election, accusations flying every single election, Democratic presidents not legitimate to Republicans, Republican presidents not legitimate to Democrats. Absolutely no dialog. I don’t know how long such a state of the body politic could go on like that, but I do see that as a type of civil war. A Divided States of America, with absolutely no way forward toward reconciliation, trust, etc.
At least for the foreseeable future, things driving us apart are only going to grow. Things are going to get worse for this country. Much worse.