He couldn’t sign with the Lakers this year.
Lakers-Jazz Trade
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The way this summer has gone I don't expect the obvious trade to happen... but it sure feels like to me these teams have something basically done.
I don't know how real Zillgitt's point about the Lakers wanting nothing but expirings back. But if it's true, then that's the problem with the earlier Beverley trade. We could have sent Bogey, Beasley and Beverley as money not owed beyond this coming season, which I think would have almost exactly matched Westbrook. But now we have nothing to do this with. (And because we're so close to the tax and hard capped we have to send out Westbrook-type money).
We could still get there with Bogey, Beasley and Clarkson, I think. But Clarkson may be a no-go for the Lakers since he's owed money in 2023-24. Is there any way to turn Clarkson's contract into an expiring from some other team? Would it be worth our while?
I think there is some truth to them not wanting salary past next season, word is they're going to try to sign Kyrie next offseason.
Here's the most cap friendly trade with the Lakers. This allows them to sign Kyrie next year. Great shooting from Bogey and Conley. Defensive guard in NAW, promising young scoring PG in Butler, and Good Rebounding/Defensive big in Whiteside. Only Conley is partially guaranteed and can be stretched/waived next year to make room for Kyrie.
Bogey, Conley, NAW, Jared Butler, Whiteside (sign and trade for the minimum? - maybe drop this but they need good Center depth)
for Westbrook + 1 unprotected 1st pick + 2 x 2nds (or all their 2nds for forever - they can be super valuable post Lebron years)
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2es7czla
Bogey, Conley, NAW, Jared Butler, Whiteside (sign and trade for the minimum? - maybe drop this but they need good Center depth)
for Westbrook + 1 unprotected 1st pick + 2 x 2nds (or all their 2nds for forever - they can be super valuable post Lebron years)
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2es7czla
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Hearsky
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Whiteside gonna want some fancy accessories for his Hummer to sign and trade for the minimum. There is no incentive for him, or the Lakers.
Coach Ellis
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Besides, doesn’t a sign and trade hard cap you? Lakers want to stay away from that.
You are right. It is three years too I believe. He can just sign with them directly.
So it is Bogey, Conley, NAW and Butler for
Westbrook + 1 unprotected 1st + 3 x 2nds post Lebron.
They keep one of their 1sts. We keep Clarkson and Beasley who we would trade to a contender in season. Lakers can then sign another player next year to Max/Super Max.
If waive Westbrook right away then we have soom room to absorb a contract for more picks.
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Coach Ellis
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if the Jazz did that deal and then rerouted Nunn and some 2nds to a 3rd team they’d actually save $2 million this year as well.
Good idea. It gives the Lakers even more cap space. I can see the Mavs being interested.
Bogey/Beasley/Clarkson
Bogey is expiring
Beasley has a team option
Clarkson has a player option
Bogey is expiring
Beasley has a team option
Clarkson has a player option
Are you trying to say a player option would be attractive for the Lakers?
They may still want Clarkson (I don't really have a good read on what they ultimately want), but I highly doubt the player option makes him more attractive in any way. Plus, there's still the issue of Clarkson and Beasley being highly redundant both positionally and role-wise.