Woj: Don to the Cavs for Markkanen, Agbaji, Sexton, three unprotected 1sts, two swaps, and a partridge in a pear tree.

[Handlogten's Heros]

Jaden Ivey?

If there are injuries. I don’t think he will have huge stats. They have a couple other young wings and I think it might take him a little time to adjust. But he should be on the short list.

I think Paolo has to get hurt for any of the other guys to have much of a shot. Paolo seems like one of those guys that will get 20/8 in his sleep.

 

[YoungJefe]

If there are injuries. I don’t think he will have huge stats. They have a couple other young wings and I think it might take him a little time to adjust. But he should be on the short list.

I think Paolo has to get hurt for any of the other guys to have much of a shot. Paolo seems like one of those guys that will get 20/8 in his sleep.

Ivey is going to have the ball in his hands a ton, him and Cade will basically have free reign.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

My bet is that if Och plays better than all the other rookies then he will win Rookie of the year.

Man... where is captain obvious when you need him.

 

[sip]

OK sure I know not great odds. However I don't think it is out of the question like most do. Consider a situation where he efficiently scores over 25 points a game as a rookie and the team is in the play in game. Still think he has no shot?

Of course if he does that he would win it but that is not going to happen. With our depth I don't think he gets more than 20 minutes a game.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

My bet is that if Och plays better than all the other rookies then he will win Rookie of the year.

Man... where is captain obvious when you need him.

When has that ever mattered in the nba. If that were true Gobert would’ve had at least 5 DPOY awards.

 

[outerspacefan]

It's friggin NBA. It's not about basketball, it´s about the show and the bright lights.
The best guy just don't get the hottie. The sexy dirty one does.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It really is kind of a stat padding award unfortunately

I mean, that's typically the most fair way for the award to work. The best rookies are usually on the worst team and to place to much emphasis on winning would be a mistake.

 

[Eddie Zero]

But sure if he scores 25 a game, he’ll probably win the award. Lol

Are the Jazz tanking ? if not,then sure your'e correct, he has no chance to get that usage. If they are he absolutely should even iof they don't give it too him. He is not a project at all being a 4 year college player, who got better every season.
I think it will be like Banes rookie season if they are not playing him much before he broke out in year du. However the log jam of guards like Clarkson still on the roster indicates no interest in a full rebuld either so you are probably right.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Of course if he does that he would win it but that is not going to happen. With our depth I don't think he gets more than 20 minutes a game.

If it goes that way where he plays playoff team rookie minutes, so much for Wembanyama on the Jazz I guess. But if they are tanking there is no reason why Agbaji shouldn't get high usage off ball in a Klay Thompson or Desmond Bane type role in the starting 5.

 

[Eddie Zero]

Bane wasn’t ROY material. He could end up being as good, but I doubt it. He projects as a solid 3&D wing though

Bane did not get enough minutes in his rookie season to sniff the likes of Antman or Melo for the award sure.
I know it is not probable or even that possible a team who seems to be blowing it up could be tanking, sorry new here was going to put green text for sarcasm on that one

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

Bane did not get enough minutes in his rookie season to sniff the likes of Antman or Melo for the award sure.
I know it is not probable or even that possible a team who seems to be blowing it up could be tanking, sorry new here was going to put green text for sarcasm on that one

If he wins ROY, you can rename me

 

[sip]

If it goes that way where he plays playoff team rookie minutes, so much for Wembanyama on the Jazz I guess. But if they are tanking there is no reason why Agbaji shouldn't get high usage off ball in a Klay Thompson or Desmond Bane type role in the starting 5.

Even if we are tanking there are still only so many minutes to go around for him with Sexton, THT (who is still younger than Ochai by about 6 months), Beasley and NAW. That doesn't even include Clarkson. This roster is still a work in progress though so things can change quickly. He may end up finding more minutes at the 3 but even then I'm not sure we get him more than 28 minutes a game between sg/sf.

 

[Eddie Zero]

If he wins ROY, you can rename me

I wish you no ill will , only that you bow to the Ochai God, but it seems you already got renamed by the looks of it

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

I wish you no ill will , only that you bow to the Ochai God, but it seems you already got renamed by the looks of it

A few times

 

[George W]

it will be interesting to see DM's career progress, but he was one of the most deeply unclutch stars of the NBA. I'm not sure what the stats say, but I, he, and every Jazz fan never had any confidence with him having the ball in his hand at the end of the game. For that reason alone I'm not upset about him jumping ship. As always, the only player I'll miss in all of this is Rudy.

- George

 

[TheStormofWar]

it will be interesting to see DM's career progress, but he was one of the most deeply unclutch stars of the NBA. I'm not sure what the stats say, but I, he, and every Jazz fan never had any confidence with him having the ball in his hand at the end of the game. For that reason alone I'm not upset about him jumping ship. As always, the only player I'll miss in all of this is Rudy.

- George

Okay, I get Don's relationship with fans has always been weird on this board (My favorite was folks lambasting him because he... hung out Lebron in a gym). But every clutch stat available says that is utter bull****. Come on guys.

 

[Shad]

Okay, I get Don's relationship with fans has always been weird on this board (My favorite was folks lambasting him because he... hung out Lebron in a gym). But every clutch stat available says that is utter bull****. Come on guys.

He's not wrong. 2(?) years ago Don led the league with the most misses from 2 feet away from the rim.

 

[Pinhead]

Okay, I get Don's relationship with fans has always been weird on this board (My favorite was folks lambasting him because he... hung out Lebron in a gym). But every clutch stat available says that is utter bull****. Come on guys.

I’m calling you out on this one. Let’s see your stats. From what I’m seeing he shot 54% from the field overall, but 36% in clutch situations.

NBA Clutch Shooting Report

Do you not remember the 4th quarter collapses over and over and over… and over last year?

 

[George W]

I’m calling you out on this one. Let’s see your stats. From what I’m seeing he shot 54% from the field overall, but 36% in clutch situations.

NBA Clutch Shooting Report

Do you not remember the 4th quarter collapses over and over and over… and over last year?

one of those 'yup, the eye-test fits the stats' situations. Every close game I would just cover my eyes. No shot had a prayer's-chance of going in. Sometimes he'd get the lay-up but the jump-shot? horrendous.

- George

 

[homeytennis]

one of those 'yup, the eye-test fits the stats' situations. Every close game I would just cover my eyes. No shot had a prayer's-chance of going in. Sometimes he'd get the lay-up but the jump-shot? horrendous.

- George

It seems like he was on the floor when we had all those bazillion point leads at half time and then end up losing the game.