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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

They should honestly want salary for next year if it is attached to decent players or expiring. It will be easier to do a sign and trade for Ky than an outright FA signing. Same with almost any other FA. Pat Riley sits in his office and laughs at these assholes thinking they need actual cap space to sign FAs.
Sure, but Bird Rights/team option give you the theoretical optionality of either.

Again, what we got and can offer.
 
Happy to trade Bogey elsewhere and see Beasley - who is only 25 - double his trade value and either keep him or get proper value for him.

Hield is 29, by the way.
 
Sure, but Bird Rights/team option give you the theoretical optionality of either.

Again, what we got and can offer.
I'm agreeing. Beasley should be one of the players they want most along with Vando. Honestly they should want Mike. Say it was Mike/Bogey/Beasley... and they only give a pick and a swap in the deal with us.... They can offer Mike/Malik/1st rp for Kyrie... they re-sign Bogey on top of it. Brooklyn likely won't tear it down so the players and picks are likely preferable to just letting him walk.
 
Vando can be included even if it is just one pick as far as I’m concerned. One Lakers pick is worth more than 3 protected ones from other teams.
 
Lonzo underwent surgery again. I doubt he's healthy with regularity before the AS break. Right now they are good but will be relying more on Dragic than you'd like to. They likely can just work around with Zach, Demar, Ayo, AC... but could see them kicking the tires on Mike or JC in season.
 
Lonzo underwent surgery again. I doubt he's healthy with regularity before the AS break. Right now they are good but will be relying more on Dragic than you'd like to. They likely can just work around with Zach, Demar, Ayo, AC... but could see them kicking the tires on Mike or JC in season.
Lonzo for Mike straight across is a fine gamble as far as I’m concerned.
 
Lonzo underwent surgery again. I doubt he's healthy with regularity before the AS break. Right now they are good but will be relying more on Dragic than you'd like to. They likely can just work around with Zach, Demar, Ayo, AC... but could see them kicking the tires on Mike or JC in season.
How could they get Mike? They dont have the salary to match unless they want to trade Lonzo, which would require the Jazz to give assets up.
 
How could they get Mike? They dont have the salary to match unless they want to trade Lonzo, which would require the Jazz to give assets up.
Why would it necessarily require that? At this point, the Bulls should be concerned they’re never really getting the player they signed back but paying out $70 million all the same.
 
How could they get Mike? They dont have the salary to match unless they want to trade Lonzo, which would require the Jazz to give assets up.
No... it would be straight up or we get something. It could also be JC and NAW. Maybe a Bogey for Ball and a pick... IDK.
 
You'd have to the give the Bulls a first, at least.

Why would it necessarily require that? At this point, the Bulls should be concerned they’re never really getting the player they signed back but paying out $70 million all the same.
There has to be concern that he is going to end up like Brandon Roy here... If Bulls are confident then they won't do the deal. Him taking a year to get healthy would be great for us... pretty devastating for Bulls who are lowkey a win now team.
 
Vando can be included even if it is just one pick as far as I’m concerned. One Lakers pick is worth more than 3 protected ones from other teams.
Vando alone for a 1st is just fine. Bogey for a first is just fine. Taking on Westbrooks salary for a first is fine. Clarkson for a late first is fine. Beasley for a 1st is fine.

Bogey + Clarkson OR Beasley + Filler (a la NAW, Gay) = Westbrook + 2 x 1sts.

Throwing in Vando AND/OR Beasley is a pretty big overpay imho.
 
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