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Trade Rumors Involving the Jazz

How could they get Mike? They dont have the salary to match unless they want to trade Lonzo, which would require the Jazz to give assets up.
No... it would be straight up or we get something. It could also be JC and NAW. Maybe a Bogey for Ball and a pick... IDK.
 
You'd have to the give the Bulls a first, at least.

Why would it necessarily require that? At this point, the Bulls should be concerned they’re never really getting the player they signed back but paying out $70 million all the same.
There has to be concern that he is going to end up like Brandon Roy here... If Bulls are confident then they won't do the deal. Him taking a year to get healthy would be great for us... pretty devastating for Bulls who are lowkey a win now team.
 
Vando can be included even if it is just one pick as far as I’m concerned. One Lakers pick is worth more than 3 protected ones from other teams.
Vando alone for a 1st is just fine. Bogey for a first is just fine. Taking on Westbrooks salary for a first is fine. Clarkson for a late first is fine. Beasley for a 1st is fine.

Bogey + Clarkson OR Beasley + Filler (a la NAW, Gay) = Westbrook + 2 x 1sts.

Throwing in Vando AND/OR Beasley is a pretty big overpay imho.
 
There has to be concern that he is going to end up like Brandon Roy here... If Bulls are confident then they won't do the deal. Him taking a year to get healthy would be great for us... pretty devastating for Bulls who are lowkey a win now team.
Yeah, if we were giving them back a player who was relatively in his prime on a long-term fair deal, then a swap would make sense. The Bulls give up high end value for more guaranteed value, but that isnt the case with any of our available players (other than maybe Clarkson, but Clarkson also kind of sucks and isnt near close to Ball's value).
 
There has to be concern that he is going to end up like Brandon Roy here... If Bulls are confident then they won't do the deal. Him taking a year to get healthy would be great for us... pretty devastating for Bulls who are lowkey a win now team.
It ain’t low key. Their path to improvement doesn’t really include trading picks so they’re constrained in their options.
 
I think you are smoking some gas if you think the Jazz could get Ball and a pick for Bogey. It would be Bogey and a pick for Ball.
Nah... if Ball is broken you have him for 3/70M of dead money. If he gets healthy he opts out at the end of next year and gets a raise. The reports around Lonzo are troubling. I think he may be bone on bone on that knee the way they talk. I like him a lot... I'd be scared he never stays healthy.
 
Depending on which first it was, I would give up Conley and a first for Ball, no question.
I wouldn’t. But I’d take the money and return them a really good point guard on a shorter and more flexible deal.

If I’m them, I at least think about it. The scary thing is no one quite knows why he has lingering pain so it’s kinda hard to assess the long term implications.
 
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