Yeah, if we were giving them back a player who was relatively in his prime on a long-term fair deal, then a swap would make sense. The Bulls give up high end value for more guaranteed value, but that isnt the case with any of our available players (other than maybe Clarkson, but Clarkson also kind of sucks and isnt near close to Ball's value).
It ain’t low key. Their path to improvement doesn’t really include trading picks so they’re constrained in their options.
If you can steal Lonzo for Conley and the Nets pick, you do that all day. Probably would cost more though. Honestly though, Lonzo covers some of Sexton's liabilities and would be nice to have a good defensive guard w/ size.
Nah... if Ball is broken you have him for 3/70M of dead money. If he gets healthy he opts out at the end of next year and gets a raise. The reports around Lonzo are troubling. I think he may be bone on bone on that knee the way they talk. I like him a lot... I'd be scared he never stays healthy.
I wouldn’t. But I’d take the money and return them a really good point guard on a shorter and more flexible deal.
Just underwent surgery today and will be reevaluated in a about a month. I feel you, but if the prognosis is good, may be worth a chance.
I think the risk/reward calculation for both teams makes it a good deal straight across.
their window for whatever the hell it is they are doing is right now. I seriously doubt Ball can get healthy enough to help this year. He plays 50 games a year and now has some troubling medical reports. I'm totally cool not buying low on Ball if Chicago wants more than a Conley swap. Bogey straight across is a pass for me too.
I wouldn't offer the Minnesota pick w/o protections. Utah needs talent in this draft and though Minnesota looks phenomenal on paper, that's not 100%.
They dont have a window without Lonzo Ball. Conley or Bogey does not open that window any further if Lonzo isnt there.
I'd put like top 3 protections on the picks just for safety. Lottery protected would be too much IMO if I'm the Bulls
I'm not talking championship... I'm saying whatever this era is for the Bulls it runs on Demarr and Lavine's timeline. If Lonzo provides no value for them this year that hurts whatever the hell this is that they are doing. Vuc also a FA but he sucks so whatevs.
I think you are taking an extremely doomer position on Ball's health and really playing the worst case scenario out in your head. He has immense value and his current health situation isnt dire enough to erase that.
You are out of your ****ing mind if you would balk at trading Conley and the Nets or T'Wolves first for him. I understand maybe both being too rich for some, but one is still an incredible bargain for a player of Lonzo's unique talents.
Not really. He had a surgery with a 6-8 week timetable for return last year. He has a bone bruise in his knee... he experienced discomfort every time he ramped up to basketball running activities... he wasn't able to get healthy in 8 months and now he had to have a surgery again a week before training camp. Also he misses 30 games a year...
He's still playing basketball games and is only 24 (or 25 or going on 25 soon, idk). He hasnt torn his ACL or achilles. He isnt on the Jonathan Isaac level (maybe a guy Jazz should also try to go after) of not playing due to consistent injuries.
