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We Got Swindled by Sexton (And Eddie Zero Sucks)

You apparently missed the Sixers/Cavs clash Monday night. Total Mitchell first half embarrassment, backup LeVert ate his lunch in every possible category. And, Mitchell has lost a step - can’t blow by anybody anymore. It’s the Cavs that should be feeling a$$ hurt, not us.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ETo-kenTgS4

Ehh, Mitchell has a proven track record. I doubt he just got worse. No Gobert may hurt his overall efficiency more than the general publc may realize, but he is still going to be a top tier scorer.
 
Sexton might be the savior we need. Putting in a season like he did in 20-21 where he played 35 MPG of tank commanding goodness would be great....but Will Hardy probably won't let him do it.
I dont think minutes will be free from Hardy, which is good. Hopefully we can actually develop him.
 
I wasn’t around much when the Mitchell trade went down…but I did notice a lot of people taking victory laps and making fun of Knicks because we duped them.

I’m not 100% sure on the reported Knicks offer, but from what I understood the Knicks offer was better. I agree with you on that. I would go as far as to say the Heat deal that was discussed was better.

I think there was a lot of “in Danny we trust” type of stuff going on…but some didn’t stop and realize we didn’t get an amazing haul for Mitchell. Then some questionable follow up deals happened along with the realization that this team won’t actually be a bottom feeder. I think we’re starting to see that this glorious tank isn’t what we had hoped. No premium prospects, no premium picks acquired. There’s a chance Ochai Agbaji is the highest draft pick we acquired from Mitchell+Gobert combined.
IMO it's equally preposterous people taking victory laps/bemoaning Ainge's choices over pre-season games, when the pieces with the highest value the Jazz got from those trades are not due for 5-7 more years... and again... we are talking about two PRE-SEASON games of the tangible pieces we actually got/missed on.
 
Sexton might be the savior we need. Putting in a season like he did in 20-21 where he played 35 MPG of tank commanding goodness would be great....but Will Hardy probably won't let him do it.
He might be ok with that this season since he is coming off injury and already got paid. Given the team around him might need a more seasoned playmaker to run an offense, if they want to lose though trying to run an offense with a guy who needs to get better at it, and a team that needs to become something is far more likely to be the ticket to lottery odds, even though lottery odds mean a lot less than in the past now with lady luck in play more and more
 
Ehh, Mitchell has a proven track record. I doubt he just got worse. No Gobert may hurt his overall efficiency more than the general publc may realize, but he is still going to be a top tier scorer.
He doesn’t get to the rim as easily as he used to, at least that’s my take. Out of him Garland and LeVert, he’s definitely the worst mover IMO.
 
And what are you basing your assessment of Sexton?
I'm just giving my initial thoughts on Sexton and I self-admitted that it's early. It's also more of a comment on his playstyle and overall feel, not the results of his play.

He hasnt proven anything in the NBA. He's fighting for minutes. The way he approaches a pre-season vs how Donovan does should be completely different. Donovan has hundreds of high level performances in games that matter. Sexton might have 0. I think judging Sexton's pre-season games is a lot more valid than Donovan's
 
IMO it's equally preposterous people taking victory laps/bemoaning Ainge's choices over pre-season games, when the pieces with the highest value the Jazz got from those trades are not due for 5-7 more years... and again... we are talking about two PRE-SEASON games of the tangible pieces we actually got/missed on.

Yeah that's fair. To my earlier point, people actually thought Sexton was good in the first place? We didn't need a preseason game to know that haha. Collin Sexton has played a lot of basketball, and he's never been a good/winning player to begin with. If someone thought the trade was good because Sexton is a cheaper but similar version of Mitchell....that was a misevaluation. It's like "insert tall guy" is a more cost efficient version of Gobert.
 
I'm just giving my initial thoughts on Sexton and I self-admitted that it's early. It's also more of a comment on his playstyle and overall feel, not the results of his play.

He hasnt proven anything in the NBA. He's fighting for minutes. The way he approaches a pre-season vs how Donovan does should be completely different. Donovan has hundreds of high level performances in games that matter. Sexton might have 0. I think judging Sexton's pre-season games is a lot more valid than Donovan's
I could come back with the question of how many game winners Mitchell has made vs missed and Sexton’s miraculous 3 on 5 game in college but it wouldn’t change your thinking.

Truthfully though I was reacting more to your insinuation of the trade “Swindled by Sexton”. Sexton doesn’t even have to be a huge success for us to declare a net positive on that deal with Laurie, Agbaji and the picks and swaps. Cleveland on the other hand…. I mean there’s a reason GM’s hate Danny and the Jazz - and it’s not because he takes it up the a$$.
 
The Cleveland deal depends on Ochai and where the picks land. Don wouldn't have left NY and I think they would still be middle of the pack type of team. Cleveland has a higher ceiling but depends on Don staying or what they get in a trade for him, as well as Mobley's health (the unicorn types like him tend to have a hard time staying healthy).

Sexton/Lauri < RJ/IQ but we need to see consistency on RJ's development before we make huge judgements. He wasn't a sure thing type of bet, but I'd prefer that player type/position... so it was a bet I'd like to have made.

I've been vocally low on RJ...but I like RJ's chances of being a star over the CLE 2029 pick tbh.
 
Yeah that's fair. To my earlier point, people actually thought Sexton was good in the first place? We didn't need a preseason game to know that haha. Collin Sexton has played a lot of basketball, and he's never been a good/winning player to begin with. If someone thought the trade was good because Sexton is a cheaper but similar version of Mitchell....that was a misevaluation. It's like "insert tall guy" is a more cost efficient version of Gobert.
I mean... we got 5 unprotected picks(3 picks + 2 swaps), recent lottery pick and a starter in addition to Sexton to make the difference in value. I really hope nobody thought we were getting anything close to Mitchell in Sexton. With that said... I had some hopes he might turn into a sixth man type fo player for us.
 
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