Then who are you saying are tanking?
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I'm saying tanking is when the front office deliberately puts the team on a course of losing for the purpose of having their draft pick be better.
Blowing it up because the current roster ain't it for young players and a ****load of other team's picks is not that. It makes the team worse in the short-term, but gives them a ton of assets and pathways to improve in the near future, even if you completely ignore their own draft pick being good due to them being temporarily bad.
Like, even if the Jazz didn't own their own 2023 pick, I'd still say what Ainge did was absolutely correct.
So isn't this what Ainge is doing now?
No, and I explained that in the exact post you got that quote from.
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Randomness suggests there is no order or pattern… the math says otherwise. The actual homework you did showed the teams that landed difference makers were more likely in the bottom 2-3… why is that? Is it random… or is it because their odds at landing top 4 are better? It’s not random… it’s math.
It’s not just 1 or 2… you really want to be top 5…
If Ainge wanted us to still make the playoffs why did he trade away Bojan?
You didn't have to ask the same question twice.
Bojan is 33 years old. We're rebuilding. Ainge thinks the way Olynyk plays is better for the development of the younger players on our new roster.
Do you know how upset most of the advocates of "tanking" on here would be if we drafted 7th, 11th, or 8th like the Warriors did those years?
You're using a different conception of tanking than almost everyone else here. As @MT Steve says, you're mistaking just the natural rise and fall of team timelines with "tanking" (which is doing everything possible to ensure a top 3 or at least top 5 pick).
LOL .. if you don't think trading away Bojan (for not even a 2nd round pick) is a tanking move then I don't know what else to say bro. Good day to you.
We can still be doing that if we eventually trade Conley, Beaseley, etc.
Even if the Jazz didn't have their own pick, I think Ainge still would have made this trade. Trading away a 33 year old who you don't think will help the new team grow well for a player who you think will just makes sense.