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Official Utah/Minnesota/Philadelphia Pick Watch

Elizah Huge said:
Minnesota

5-7

As of today would be tied for the #10 pick in the draft.

Brooklyn

5-7

As of today would be tied for the #10 pick in the draft.

Philadelphia

5-6

As of today would be tied for the #13 pick in the draft.

We own Minnesota’s pick unprotected and get the lesser of Brooklyn/Philadelphia/Houston’s picks.
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Updated. I’m really feeling like Minnesota’s pick could end up in the lottery.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
People are dumb and extremely overreactive to small sample sizes. I would love to have Gobert back on this team. Especially if we only had to give up those players (no picks).
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Yeah. I’d do that in a heartbeat. Love those guys, but Hardy would be great for him I think. Plus Lauri and Sexton.
 
We have a bunch if 10-20M guys playing at or above their paygrade. Would need to clear out more than 2 to make room for Rudy.

I dont like it. We cant stretch the cap enough without giving up what we are. We just need Kessler to turn into the Walmart-Rudy he showed he can be yesterday.
 
The Fresh Prince said:
I wonder if Minnesota's front office is jumping up and down in joy like they did when they acquired Gobert.
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Problem is Rudy is the only one they have showing up. Everyone else is pouting and playing like ****. They need to gut the roster and add players around Gobert, or dump everything. I am glad we will likely end up with a great pick from that trade, and the players we got were the real core of that team, but man I still feel bad for Rudy. If those guys could get it together they could make some noise, but the internal squabbling is going to kill them. They have no direction, and too many of the key players have way too much quit in them, like Kat and Edwards. Sad for Rudy, happy for us. GO JAZZ!!
 
HermanG said:
We have a bunch if 10-20M guys playing at or above their paygrade. Would need to clear out more than 2 to make room for Rudy.

I dont like it. We cant stretch the cap enough without giving up what we are. We just need Kessler to turn into the Walmart-Rudy he showed he can be yesterday.
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I think Kessler is well on his way, and frankly exactly what we need in that role right now. We don't need a Rudy because we have a bunch of guys who give a **** and are putting forth real effort on both ends of the floor. Imagine that, if you add guys who care about defense and play team offense you can win games! Who knew? Definitely not DL nor Snyder, that is for sure.

Now, if we could add Rudy on a cheaper deal, we would be just that much better, but that isn't happening until after his current deal is over, then it will be up for debate how impactful he can be as he ages. Best case we win a couple of rings with the surprising play of the current squad, bolstered by the lottery picks we get over the next couple of years, and Rudy comes back on a cheaper deal later as an elder statesman to add defensive and rebounding punch to the bench as we win our 4th ring. That would be sweet.
 
MT Steve said:
Minnesota has played 9 home games and 3 road games, have had a baby soft schedule, and are 5-7.

They're a disaster.
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Their schedule is about to get really hard for the rest of the year. If the injury bug hits them at all then it could get interesting.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Problem is Rudy is the only one they have showing up. Everyone else is pouting and playing like ****. They need to gut the roster and add players around Gobert, or dump everything. I am glad we will likely end up with a great pick from that trade, and the players we got were the real core of that team, but man I still feel bad for Rudy. If those guys could get it together they could make some noise, but the internal squabbling is going to kill them. They have no direction, and too many of the key players have way too much quit in them, like Kat and Edwards. Sad for Rudy, happy for us. GO JAZZ!!
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The issue is, as I said numerous times before the season, that Rudy doesn't fit in with their style of play. They've been terrible with him on the court offensively because their entire offensive philosophy last year was to get up and down the court/shoot quick 3s. Anthony Edwards is one of the most dynamic athletes in the league and hasn't even dunked in a game this year because their spacing is terrible with Rudy/KAT on the court together.

They definitely view Ant/KAT as franchise cornerstones going forward and they should dump everyone so they can build around an aging and declining Rudy Gobert? Lmao. The Rudy bias and love here is still crazy.

But at the end of the day Rudy's team is losing and having locker room issues while Donovan's new team is thriving and having fun. But I'm sure Donovan was definitely the villain and root of all of our problems.
 
A lot of new articles about Minnesota this week. The most damning thing is the KAT/Gobert fit.

Minnesota is terrible on defense when Gobert is out and terrible on offense when Gobert is in.

It has a lot to do with KAT. He is playing terrible on defense and his offense has been non-existent with Gobert on the floor. They are missing the three-point shooting Beasley brought to them last year and their spacing is really bad.

I don’t think they will tumble as far down as top-5 worst record in the league but top-10 is a possibility and I think there is a really good chance this pick ends up in the lottery. I think Minnesota ends up in a play-in game and what happens there will be the difference between a lottery pick or a pick in the mid-teens for us.
 
Elizah Huge said:
A lot of new articles about Minnesota this week. The most damning thing is the KAT/Gobert fit.

Minnesota is terrible on defense when Gobert is out and terrible on offense when Gobert is in.

It has a lot to do with KAT. He is playing terrible on defense and his offense has been non-existent with Gobert on the floor. They are missing the three-point shooting Beasley brought to them last year and their spacing is really bad.

I don’t think they will tumble as far down as top-5 worst record in the league but top-10 is a possibility and I think there is a really good chance this pick ends up in the lottery. I think Minnesota ends up in a play-in game and what happens there will be the difference between a lottery pick or a pick in the mid-teens for us.
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Yeah I also read KAT is taking higher % of his shots from the paint when Gobert is on the floor vs when he is off.

That makes literally no sense if its true.
 
Dude, being a T'Wolves fan has to be 20x worse than being a Jazz fan.

They had two picks to draft Steph Curry, but they chose Johnny Flynn and Ricky Rubio.

Then they trade away their future picks, Walker Kessler and core players for an offensively limited 30 year old Gobert.


Ooooooohweeee I know the Wolves fanbase has to be sick to their stomach.
 
HermanG said:
Yeah I also read KAT is taking higher % of his shots from the paint when Gobert is on the floor vs when he is off.

That makes literally no sense if its true.
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Really it all just shows they (meaning the FO and coaching staff) have no idea how to best use Gobert to initiate offense, and have not done a good job of surrounding him with the right talent. They gave us their heart and soul, and what they have left isn't cutting it. On paper they should be dominant, but ANT and KAT are both soulless. They don't seem to care much about the game in general, and the coaching staff have no idea how to get the team to play together the right way. Too bad for them, and good for us in the long run potentially. They should be way better than this.
 
It’s crazy that we’re only a few weeks into the season and we’re already at the point that I can’t imagine what possessed the Wolves front office to make that trade.
 
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