What's new

Musk's Twitter starts banning journalists

It is only a matter of time for twitter to devolve into just another white supremacist internet echo chamber.
Cuz they don’t have enough of those… 4 Chan… 8 Chan… Parler. Truth. Facebook. NRA tv. Newsmax. Fox News. OANN. Bannon. Rogan. Shapiro. Owens. Kirk. The list goes on and on and on and on and on.
 
Except it isn’t…

View attachment 13548


Just follow the rules. This is the second time you guys have brought this up. Thinking it’s some conspiracy to go after the left. It isn’t, just people not following the rules. It’s also a private company…do you still agree with this?

View attachment 13549
That's just it, it isn't private information.
 
Cuz they don’t have enough of those… 4 Chan… 8 Chan… Parler. Truth. Facebook. NRA tv. Newsmax. Fox News. OANN. Bannon. Rogan. Shapiro. Owens. Kirk. The list goes on and on and on and on and on.
The problem is that if the community isn't fairly heavily moderated then it always devolves into the extremes. They are the loudest and they are the bullies, so the regular folks go elsewhere, or get swept up in the chaos, feeling like they are part of some counter-culture insurgency righting all the wrongs, whatever they have deluded themselves into believing those wrongs are. This is a large part of why I do not engage in any social media, really. Jazz Fanz and a few other forums are my only "social media" and the other forums are more geek-centric some with strict no-politics policies.

As a side note, I otherwise try to do the weird thing in the world today, I try to talk to real flesh and blood people. During COVID we have cut down on these interactions, but we regularly host(ed) barbecues or dinners or block parties or whatever you want to call it for people in our church, and not in our church, and from work, or from the neighborhood, and they are usually really well-received. And it is there I try to talk to people about current events, and get a different perspective. But it is NOT the norm. When I approached a guy that just moved in this last summer about coming to one of our gatherings, he was genuinely perplexed, like "you want to have us come to dinner, at your house, and we can sit around and talk", I mean it was weird. But he came and brought his fam and has come to a few more since. Probably mostly for the ribs and pulled pork, but most people enjoy the discussions because it is a lot of diverse backgrounds in a non-threatening setting and without the toxic anonymity of the cesspools of FB and Twitter.

Don't get me wrong, we don't always have these in-depth philosophical conversations and ****, mostly it is sports and what the kids are up to and how's work, but we do get into some really interesting exchanges about things like BLM and Trump and Jan 6, etc. I highly recommend it if you can pull it off in your neighborhood. Plus I find new basketball players this way for our Saturday morning games at the local park, or at least rope people into it. lol

Oh and another big benefit of this is we tend to look out for each other, like when we are away on vacation and such. My neighbor has a key to my house and I have one to his and the code to his security system.


Won't be long and that 75" OLED will be MINE!!!! bu-wah hah hah hah!!!
 
Lol. musk is a hypocrite. Those defending him are just tribal babies who’ve had their brains rotted out by partisanship.


View: https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1603611316035395586?s=46&t=zjrZQiBF3NjXTOWYwFfiOA

B3493856-A3E1-48BE-ABA8-32EB37B4E9AD.jpeg
This you? “They can carry whatever they want”
You defended twitter banning Alex Jones and now if someone stands up for Elon for temporary suspending, then they are “tribal babies who’ve had their brains rotted out by partisanship”

Why can’t you just say that he can do want he wants, like you did before?
 
  • Like
Reactions: PJF
View attachment 13550
This you? “They can carry whatever they want”
You defended twitter banning Alex Jones and now if someone stands up for Elon for temporary suspending, then they are “tribal babies who’ve had their brains rotted out by partisanship”

Why can’t you just say that he can do want he wants, like you did before?
LOL. You’re missing some crucial context here. If conservatives like you want me to treat them as good faith actors and not trolls, you can’t do this. Cc @One Brow this Is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. Buck isn’t being honest or arguing in good faith here. If “conservatives” on this site want to be treated respectfully and not easily dismissed as trolls by me, then they need to do a better job than this. This post was merely a troll job to illicit an emotional reaction rather than accurately and honestly debate. Do you disagree? @One Brow? I hope you hold conservatives to a similar standard you hold me. One shouldn’t be making hasty troll job posts, lame attempts at “gotcha” rather than seriously debate issues in a respectful and honest manner.

By 2018, Alex Jones had lied about ****ing children being massacred at Sandy Hook which led to parents receiving threats. So not the same as journalists who have been suspended for… *checks notes* not sucking up to Elon/holding opposing political views.

Elon Musk has been whining for months about being a “free speech” guy. He’s pro free speech when it means inviting insurrectionists, anti semites, and other RW bros who suck him off. He’s suddenly pro moderation when dealing with journalists and political opponents.

Elon has the right to ban whoever he wants according to whatever policy he seems to pull out of his *** these days. It’ll lead to the collapse of twitter, but I’m also fine with him burning $44 billion in stupid ways. The fact that you don’t see this has hypocritical coming from a guy who pretends to care about free speech just shows how partisanship has rotted out your brain.

If you’re going to claim to be a free speech absolutist and free accounts from nutjobs and racists but ban journalists, you’re *not* a free speech absolutist. It may be within your right to do that on a social media platform. The first amendment defends your right to do this. But you’re clearly not a free speech absolutist. Again, if you can’t see this, then it’s partisanship that has rotted out your brain.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
LOL. You’re missing some crucial context here. Alex Jones had lied about ****ing children being massacred at Sandy Hook which led to parents receiving threats. So not the same as journalists who have been suspended for… *checks notes* not sucking up to Elon/holding opposing political views.

Elon Musk has been whining for months about being a “free speech” guy. He’s pro free speech when it means inviting insurrectionists, anti semites, and other RW bros who suck him off. He’s suddenly pro moderation when it’s not.

Elon has the right to ban whoever he wants according to whatever policy he seems to pull out of his *** these days. But the fact that you don’t see this has hypocritical coming from a guy who pretends to care about free speech just shows how partisanship has rotted out your brain.
Except I don’t see it that way at all. I see it only through what are the rules of the site at that time. Period. He can change his mind a 1000 times for all I care. He posted literally yesterday do not dox people or you will be suspended. These journalists thought they were above everyone else and posted what he warned them about and then they were suspended. Boo hoo. Follow the rules.

Alex Jones posting disgusting things. Twitter has the right to ban him and appropriately did. Trump posted that he would not attend Biden’s inauguration, Permanently banned. They still have the right to ban him. Did you complain about that? Or did you celebrate it? Is it that you’re upset now that people on the left are now getting suspended?

Follow the rules, even if they change. Period. There is no partisanship when you view it this way.

You are the one who is partisan, complaining when it happens to the left and standing up for twitter when it happens to the right. No consistency.
 
LOL. You’re missing some crucial context here. If conservatives like you want me to treat them as good faith actors and not trolls, you can’t do this. Cc @One Brow this Is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. Buck isn’t being honest or arguing in good faith here. If “conservatives” on this site want to be treated respectfully and not easily dismissed as trolls by me, then they need to do a better job than this. This post was merely a troll job to illicit an emotional reaction rather than accurately and honestly debate. Do you disagree? @One Brow? I hope you hold conservatives to a similar standard you hold me. One shouldn’t be making hasty troll job posts, lame attempts at “gotcha” rather than seriously debate issues in a respectful and honest manner.
Nice additional edit. Not trolling. Just showing your inconsistency. I also called out One Brow earlier for the same thing. You both were sticking up for Twitter because Jones crossed Twitters hate speech/lies/misinformation. So they banned him. You both were completely fine with that and both even said it’s a private company and they can choose to keep or remove people.

Now that journalists who lean left, literally the next day, ignored Musk’s warning about doxxing and went ahead and posted the information that you will get suspended for, got suspended.

Now both of you are outraged.

Then you start with the personal attacks.

I called you out. I don’t consider that a troll job. If you have open posting history that is not consistent on the same topic, I will call it out every time. If I do it, please call me out.

Attacking me calling me “tribal babies who’ve had their brains rotted out by partisanship” for posting context and information and having a different opinion is weak. If you want a debate keep it civil and you won’t get an emotion response from me.
 
Except it isn’t…
You forgot to quote this part:
Is the information available elsewhere online?

If the reported information was shared somewhere else before it was shared on Twitter, e.g., someone sharing their personal phone number on their own publicly accessible website, we may not treat this information as private, as the owner has made it publicly available. Note: we may take action against home addresses being shared, even if they are publicly available, due to the potential for physical harm.

ElonJet posts publicly available information, and does not post a home address. It's not violating this newly-formulated rule.

Just follow the rules. This is the second time you guys have brought this up. Thinking it’s some conspiracy to go after the left. It isn’t, just people not following the rules.

ElonJet did follow the rules, and so did the journalists linking to ElonJet.

It’s also a private company…do you still agree with this?

Did anything I post indicate to you that Elon had no right to ban these people? Freedom to act is not freedom from criticism.
 
It should be stated that few if any of the journalists suspended yesterday were tweeting Musk’s location. They appear to have been suspended because they were critical of the “free speech absolutist” who owns twitter.
Most of the banned were linking to ElonJet (I think there was one exception). That seems to be the lynchpin of the decisions. After his encounter with a stalker, his reaction is understandable, if inappropriate.
 
Back
Top