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"If conservatives like you want me to treat them as good faith actors and not trolls, you can’t do this. Cc @One Brow this Is EXACTLY what I’m talking about. Buck isn’t being honest or arguing in good faith here. If “conservatives” on this site want to be treated respectfully and not easily dismissed as trolls by me, then they need to do a better job than this. This post was merely a troll job to illicit an emotional reaction rather than accurately and honestly debate. Do you disagree? @One Brow? I hope you hold conservatives to a similar standard you hold me. One shouldn’t be making hasty troll job posts, lame attempts at “gotcha” rather than seriously debate issues in a respectful and honest manner."



I took the below quote from you reading it as personal "cancel culture" and not as company policy. If I was wrong, I would like to apologize.

"If only there was some sort of term that could describe this action of canceling others whom Musk disagrees with. A type of culture that cancels unpopular opinions. Hmmm"



When it comes to terms of service, I don't view as what degree of the offenses is, just that it violated the terms.



I posted the reason Trump was banned by twitter. Once again, I don't care about the degree, but he was banned after tweeting this:

"To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th."



I posted the policy in this thread:


I also posted Aaron Rupars sub stack stating he posted the information in the forum as well:



I even posted the warning the day before, from Elon, in this thread:




From the link Twitter posted:
Twitter linked to its page detailing its policy on abusive behavior. That policy states, in part: "You may not engage in the targeted harassment of someone, or incite other people to do so. We consider abusive behavior an attempt to harass, intimidate, or silence someone else's voice."


They both violate the terms of service. Easy. Once again, the degree of offense is different, but both did not follow the rules.


After you became personal calling people, like myself "Those defending him are just tribal babies who’ve had their brains rotted out by partisanship."

You stated that in post #13. Then I responded in post #18.


I don't think you were reading my posts. I added lots of context, information and links so people can see more of the story than a partisan post from twitter.
Never have I claimed that owners of Twitter couldn’t make policy. Therefore, there is no hypocrisy on my end. Clearly there’s a difference between reporting publicly available information on Musk’s location vs inciting an insurrection or lying about children being murdered. Cmon, stop being so obtuse. Furthermore, if Musk wants to be known as the free speech absolutist that he claims to be, he shouldn’t be banning folks for posting public information. You're defending him because you see him going after your perceived enemies, “the left.”

You’re not responding rationally or in good faith here. You’re arguing for the sake of arguing. I gave you a chance and now it’s back onto the block list. Arguing with you is worthless as you’re not listening to my pts nor adjusting your talking pts to what’s being presented. You’re regurgitating the same nonsense page after page after page. Waste of time.

I never directed a message to you. You jumped the gun and got personal in a lame attempt to “get me” on some pathetic attempt to expose hypocrisy when none exists.

Per usual on this site, “conservatives” cannot debate the facts rationally and circle the wagons. The conversation devolves into personal attacks and emotional outbursts to defend their tribe and attack perceived political enemies. It’s getting old. And now the thread is off track with you and Al hoping to extract their pound of flesh. Really, I’m flattered. But perhaps others in this thread would like to read good material rather than a pissing match?
 
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It looks like you are pointing out private information and One Brow was speaking of information that is already available to the public. Not private.
But Musk is going after “the left” and that’s awesome. How dare anyone criticize this. Just follow the rules. Or something. Posting publicly available information is like threatening to billionaires who claim to be free speech absolutists. Or something.

Just follow the rules. This is the second time you guys have brought this up. Thinking it’s some conspiracy to go after the left. It isn’t, just people not following the rules. It’s also a private company…do you still agree with this?
I’m old enough to remember a former president who didn’t follow the rules. Yet his account is active. Wonder why right wingers aren’t demanding his account to be suspended? After all, “follow the rules.”

Clearly, no hypocrisy being shown by bad faith actors here….
 
You’re not responding rationally or in good faith here. You’re arguing for the sake of arguing. I gave you a chance and now it’s back onto the block list.
I did respond rationally and in good faith. You didn’t like the answers. Don’t care you block people. You are complaining about people who silencing others, while silencing them. Hypocrisy. Stay in your left wing echo chamber and stay uninformed with partisan information.

Arguing with you is worthless as you’re not listening to my pts nor adjusting your talking pts to what’s being presented.

You literally didn’t bring anything to this conversation. Literally nothing. No new information, no context, no data. Just you complaining about the “conservatives”

You’re regurgitating the same nonsense page after page after page. Waste of time.
Because you can’t or will not read my posts. They answered your questions, before you asked them. So I had to send links, to not write it again.

I never directed a message to you. You jumped the gun and got personal in a lame attempt to “get me” on some pathetic attempt to expose hypocrisy when none exists.
I already apologized for my misreading of your opinion. I never said you direct messaged me.

Per usual on this site, “conservatives” cannot debate the facts rationally and circle the wagons.
Once again, not a conservative, and again I am the only one who posted facts. You brought 0 facts, just a partisan opinion.

The conversation devolves into personal attacks and emotional outbursts to defend their tribe and attack perceived political enemies.
Yes, you start with personal attacks when you can’t debate. This happens every time. You can’t debate and you have no depth.

It’s getting old. And now the thread is off track with you and Al hoping to extract their pound of flesh. Really, I’m flattered. But perhaps others in this thread would like to read good material rather than a pissing match?
Agreed
 
It looks like you are pointing out private information and One Brow was speaking of information that is already available to the public. Not private.
We are speaking on the same thing. Elonjet has created a program that takes public information (flight plans ect) and then uses software to take private information from the transponders and compute where the plane is.
Yes, it has part public information and part private information. Overall Elons flights would be private without this process. Then Elonjet takes the information and publishes it. This is where you could consider it public. With Twitters TOS, this is not the case. It is not published by the owner (Elon). So people who post the Elonjet information on Twitter will get a 7 day suspension.

Once again, it’s subjective if it’s public information and to the owner and his recent harassment, it’s considered private.

He is not going after the left. It’s just that the left leaning journalists were not following the rules.
 
We are speaking on the same thing. Elonjet has created a program that takes public information (flight plans ect) and then uses software to take private information from the transponders and compute where the plane is.
Yes, it has part public information and part private information. Overall Elons flights would be private without this process. Then Elonjet takes the information and publishes it. This is where you could consider it public. With Twitters TOS, this is not the case. It is not published by the owner (Elon). So people who post the Elonjet information on Twitter will get a 7 day suspension.

Once again, it’s subjective if it’s public information and to the owner and his recent harassment, it’s considered private.

He is not going after the left. It’s just that the left leaning journalists were not following the rules.
I dont think I ever mentioned the left or the right but whatevers. I dont even tweet or have a twitter account and dont really care what the twitter owner does with twitter. Just noticed that the rules you posted seemed to specify private info shouldn't be posted and one brow stated that the info posted was public information.
 
This is helpful for those trying to get past the partisanship that has rotted out some people’s minds and understand what this is really about.

 
We are speaking on the same thing. Elonjet has created a program that takes public information (flight plans ect) and then uses software to take private information from the transponders and compute where the plane is.
If the information is private, how does ElonJet access it? Are they misusing access to a system?

Once again, it’s subjective if it’s public information and to the owner and his recent harassment, it’s considered private.
The distinction between public and private information has very little subjectivity.
 
It appears that several of the accounts were reinstated, some of them with the caveat that they had to delete some previous tweets.

Keith Olbermann is still blocked, though.

And Libs of Tik Tok is still doxxing teachers and librarians. Interesting.

It’s also interesting that Musk restored a bunch of those accounts by a poll. Interesting way of going about protecting people. Seems to me like policy should be based on more concrete reasoning than whatever Musk feels like day to day. It’s his platform so he has a right to do with it as he sees fit.

Also interesting how those that complain the most about social media benefit the most from it. They benefit the most from these companies and the algorithms that spew anger, disinformation, and racism. It’s what generates clicks!


View: https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1603952491367907331?s=46&t=MFAqCuwaY3-BTFv8krgheg
 
All the money in the world and still has the cultural status anxiety as your typical MAGA.

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