John Stockton Claims He Had Proof of 1000 Athletes Dying of Vaccine

[zags422]

Everyone knows the vaccine is totally safe. The reason people keep getting blood clots, myocarditis, and sudden adult death syndrome is obviously climate change and racism.

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just so you know people that have active covid19 virus are developing clots, PE's and strokes regardless of vaccine arguments. I have seen within the last week normalish people with + viral testing in their middle age have life altering strokes, thrombotic in nature. not saying the vaccine is not potentially a possible issue for increased thrombosis but the virus itself is as well, that is fact.

 

[fishonjazz]

It’s amazing how many people here believe that this is the first vaccine to not have any rare side effects. Do the benefits outweigh those risks; most likely, yes. But, there isnt even a public discussion tracking such risks on a vaccine that was pushed out in record time. Discussion of any kind has been shut down completely.

I have read lots of discussions about what you say isnt being discussed.


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[fishonjazz]

I've had 4 vaccine shots now and somehow still alive.

The vaccine immediate side effects were way worse for me than actual covid (and yes, I know that's likely because I was vaccinated). The day after a covid **** I feel like my body is going to fall apart

Only my first 2 shots gave me side effects (still didnt miss work or anything though).
My next three shots had no side effects at all. Not even a sore arm.

I still havent had covid as far as i know


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[fishonjazz]

Everyone knows the vaccine is totally safe. The reason people keep getting blood clots, myocarditis, and sudden adult death syndrome is obviously climate change and racism.

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I have not heard of a single person getting blood clots, myocardis, or sudden adult death syndrome.


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[SteakNEggs]

How absolutely angry and insecure both sides get over COVID is embarrassing. Personally I don't think Stockton is correct but why does it bother people? Who really cares?

Me I'm more concerned with where it came from and how China has once again become a hotbed.

 

[HermanG]

How absolutely angry and insecure both sides get over COVID is embarrassing. Personally I don't think Stockton is correct but why does it bother people? Who really cares?

Me I'm more concerned with where it came from and how China has once again become a hotbed.

I was more curious about 1st bird flu and swine flu, as some companies already had medicines developed for them. Zika vaccine that was horrible public health failure also came out very fast.

China is the most logical hotbed of all.. not only because of dense population areas and hygiene issues.. but also because of their sus traditional medicines and weird critter eating habits.

 

[HermanG]

I mean in China, they for instance sell booze with actual dead scorpions and snakes inside the bottles marinating in the liqour.

 

[Ron Mexico]

How absolutely angry and insecure both sides get over COVID is embarrassing. Personally I don't think Stockton is correct but why does it bother people? Who really cares?

Me I'm more concerned with where it came from and how China has once again become a hotbed.

The second one is pretty easy. They have had very strict measures to control it for 3 years. It started getting harder to control and people got more and more upset. They opened up things and it is sweeping across pretty much the only place that it hasn't been yet.

As far as where it came from. It seems pretty likely it came from a wild animal probably through one kept in unsanitary conditions with humans around. There is a small but unlikely chance it was accidently leaked from a lab.

Those seem far less important than someone trying to scare as many people as possible away from taking this vaccine, other vaccines, and future vaccines. People like Stockton are causing scary diseases that were once eliminated back. That's a problem.

 

[SteakNEggs]

The second one is pretty easy. They have had very strict measures to control it for 3 years. It started getting harder to control and people got more and more upset. They opened up things and it is sweeping across pretty much the only place that it hasn't been yet.

As far as where it came from. It seems pretty likely it came from a wild animal probably through one kept in unsanitary conditions with humans around. There is a small but unlikely chance it was accidently leaked from a lab.

Those seem far less important than someone trying to scare as many people as possible away from taking this vaccine, other vaccines, and future vaccines. People like Stockton are causing scary diseases that were once eliminated back. That's a problem.

So we don't know the origin which is fine but what Stockton said is dangerous? Disagree... As far as vaccine the virus went away vaccinated or not. The virus is potentially coming back vaccine or not. Let's quit acting like the vaccine is the cure all. It's helpful in the severity but does little to stop the transmission(China is highly vaccinated). If you are vaccinated (I am) you should have nothing to worry about.

Personally I find all the drama tiresome. I'm vaccinated I'll be fine. If people don't want to get vaccinated, I'm fine. That's their choice.

 

[Eddie Zero]

So its obvious the updated vaccines help the majority ,but now even the most recent one, is not able to completely remove the importance of PPE. This is the unfortunate issue that needs fixed, to stop the cycle,which continues to get ignored by the general population, and is the sole reason for the variant transfers. no masks no problem right smh we are all the walking dead

 

[Ron Mexico]

So we don't know the origin which is fine but what Stockton said is dangerous? Disagree... As far as vaccine the virus went away vaccinated or not. The virus is potentially coming back vaccine or not. Let's quit acting like the vaccine is the cure all. It's helpful in the severity but does little to stop the transmission(China is highly vaccinated). If you are vaccinated (I am) you should have nothing to worry about.

Personally I find all the drama tiresome. I'm vaccinated I'll be fine. If people don't want to get vaccinated, I'm fine. That's their choice.

Gotta love drama queens bringing up drama then claim to not want drama, lol. The virus didn't go away, I'm sure how anyone could claim that. The virus isn't coming back, it never left or even got close to that, mostly we moved on deciding to live with it. Vaccines have been one of the greatest medical accomplishments in human history. Making people afraid of them is bad for humanity in a huge way, that's not really comparable to what you are implying about origins. I don't think China is highly vaccinated especially in their vulnerable crowd. But I guess you believe China's vaccination rate so by that logic you believe where COVID started at and what's happening now in China, so I have no idea why you wanted to start drama with bringing those things up.

 

[fishonjazz]

So we don't know the origin which is fine but what Stockton said is dangerous? Disagree... As far as vaccine the virus went away vaccinated or not. The virus is potentially coming back vaccine or not. Let's quit acting like the vaccine is the cure all. It's helpful in the severity but does little to stop the transmission(China is highly vaccinated). If you are vaccinated (I am) you should have nothing to worry about.

Personally I find all the drama tiresome. I'm vaccinated I'll be fine. If people don't want to get vaccinated, I'm fine. That's their choice.

I think pretty much everyone feels the same way as you. Who is acting like the vaccine is the cure all? Who is saying everyone has to get vaccinated?

 

[gandalfe]

 

[LogGrad98]

I have read lots of discussions about what you say isnt being discussed.


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I never see him in GD so he's basing his opinion on the jazz forum where we rarely discuss this stuff at all.

 

[The Thriller]

So we don't know the origin which is fine but what Stockton said is dangerous? Disagree... As far as vaccine the virus went away vaccinated or not. The virus is potentially coming back vaccine or not. Let's quit acting like the vaccine is the cure all. It's helpful in the severity but does little to stop the transmission(China is highly vaccinated). If you are vaccinated (I am) you should have nothing to worry about.

Personally I find all the drama tiresome. I'm vaccinated I'll be fine. If people don't want to get vaccinated, I'm fine. That's their choice.

I think all this anti vax nonsense is exceptionally dangerous. Opportunists and bad faith actors are exploiting Covid with dangerous costs. Just look at what it’s doing to the confidence of regular vaccines that we’ve had for decades. You might be fine against Covid but what about other diseases that had been previously been eradicated because of vaccination before you were born?

Vaccine confidence declined considerably during pandemic

Confidence in vaccines is lower post-pandemic across all demographic groups

www.medicaleconomics.com

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An August report from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that "even a single case of paralytic polio represents a public health emergency in the United States." CNN Medical Analyst Dr. Leana Wen explains why.

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[SteakNEggs]

Gotta love drama queens bringing up drama then claim to not want drama, lol. The virus didn't go away, I'm sure how anyone could claim that. The virus isn't coming back, it never left or even got close to that, mostly we moved on deciding to live with it. Vaccines have been one of the greatest medical accomplishments in human history. Making people afraid of them is bad for humanity in a huge way, that's not really comparable to what you are implying about origins. I don't think China is highly vaccinated especially in their vulnerable crowd. But I guess you believe China's vaccination rate so by that logic you believe where COVID started at and what's happening now in China, so I have no idea why you wanted to start drama with bringing those things up.

Talk about drama, no personal attacks needed from me kid. This is why I shouldn't have even tried. Too much programmed anger.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[SteakNEggs]

I think pretty much everyone feels the same way as you. Who is acting like the vaccine is the cure all? Who is saying everyone has to get vaccinated?

Did Biden Say You Won't Get COVID if You're Vaccinated?

Biden overstated the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccinations during a July 2021 town hall.

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The guy who claimed "this is a virus of the unvaccinated" but now has gotten COVID what 3 times? Nobody seems to care about when the president(s) blatantly lies but that John Stockton is the worst.

 

[Ron Mexico]

Talk about drama, no personal attacks needed from me kid. This is why I shouldn't have even tried. Too much programmed anger.

I'll leave it at that.

If you're sensing anger it's projected. Sorry for calling you out though, it's obviously a sensitive topic for you.

 

[SteakNEggs]

If you're sensing anger it's projected. Sorry for calling you out though, it's obviously a sensitive topic for you.

Yet John Stockton is so mean. Cheers and no hard feelings Karen.

 

[Ron Mexico]

John Stockton is so mean lololololololololololololo.

This sums up your posting pretty well.